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re: Is Candace Owen’s sounding scared? Emmanuel Macron & Briggett will face Discovery!!!
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:00 am to 94LSU
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:00 am to 94LSU
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The person accused has to prove their innocent in your country?
A plaintiff in almost every civil suit has the burden of proof, yes.
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:01 am to dafif
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Second - yes - discovery can be her medical records if her medical condition is a part of the suit and the information to be obtained might lead to discoverable evidence .
Also, a court ordered dna test can be appropriate and is the easiest way to determine the answer score the free speech arguments begin
If any of that occurs it will be under a protective order and will not be public.
This will settle anyway.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:13 am to GumboPot
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Elucidate "it". You are still making generalized accusations. The court is going to require specifics and full statements. Not parsed statements and half truths.
The accusations are pretty specific
candace has said that’s factually
1. Bridgett Maxron was born maleZ
2. Bridgett Macron is actually Christian Trogneaux her brother.
3. That Christian Trogneaux stole
his sister identity when the sister died
4. That she didn’t give birth to her children but instead a woman who was her alleged neice-in-law did.
5. That her first husband didn’t exist.
6. That she groomed Macron (which I think is true and Candace could have gotten away with saying)
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:18 am to Indefatigable
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If any of that occurs it will be under a protective order and will not be public.
If she submits to a dna test she can probably quash any other digging expedition.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:35 pm to SammyTiger
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right but Christian Trogneaux is out there right now being Christian Trogneaux.
what does this mean?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:45 pm to supatigah
it’s means there is Bridgett Macron and a separate person who is Christian Trogneaux actively living his life as Christian Trogneaux not as Bridget Macron.
Which would be hard to do if he was stealing his sister’s identity.
Which would be hard to do if he was stealing his sister’s identity.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:46 pm to SpartanSoul
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Well what do you make of the fact that her shows were based on a book written by Xavier Poussard after he did years of research and he isn't being sued like her. The Macron's have harassed journalists and lost other suits though. Doesn't that give her all the cover she needs under the US standards?
this is what is so amazing to me about macron pursuing this line of attack
in her defense, the attorneys will be able to present all of the research that Poussard presented in his books.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 12:54 pm to SammyTiger
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it’s means there is Bridgett Macron and a separate person who is Christian Trogneaux actively living his life as Christian Trogneaux not as Bridget Macron.
Which would be hard to do if he was stealing his sister’s identity.
never heard of this before
according to the googler
“christian trogneux”
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Based on the provided information, Christian Trogneux is not a recognized individual in the public domain. However, a person named Jean-Michel Trogneux, the older brother of Brigitte Macron, the First Lady of France, has been referenced in numerous sources.
Brigitte Macron has five siblings and is the youngest of the family. Her brother, Jean-Michel Trogneux, was born in Amiens, France, on February 11, 1945, and still lives there. He has been present with his sister at public events such as Emmanuel Macron's presidential inaugurations in 2017 and 2022.
Jean-Michel Trogneux has been a subject of a false claim that alleges that Brigitte Macron is actually him, a man who underwent a gender reassignment and adopted the name Brigitte. Brigitte and her brother Jean-Michel have filed defamation lawsuits against those spreading this false information.
“does christian trogneux exist?”
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No, Christian Trogneux does not appear to exist as a person, according to the available search results.
The name "Christian Trogneux" seems to be linked to the French First Lady, Brigitte Macron (born Brigitte Trogneux), through misinformation and conspiracy theories that falsely claim she is a transgender woman whose birth name was "Jean-Michel Trogneux".
It's important to clarify: Brigitte Macron was born Brigitte Trogneux. She has an older brother named Jean-Michel Trogneux. The conspiracy theories falsely claim Brigitte is Jean-Michel, according to LGBTQ Nation and PBS.
So, while Jean-Michel Trogneux is a real person and Brigitte Macron's brother, the name "Christian Trogneux" is not associated with any verified individual, and the claims about Brigitte Macron being transgender are false and part of a spreading disinformation campaign.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:11 pm to supatigah
That’s probably on me
a lot of names to keep up with.
There is the brother in all the photos that’s supposed to be here when she’s younger
She says that guy is still alive and out there living his life. whatever his name is
a lot of names to keep up with.
There is the brother in all the photos that’s supposed to be here when she’s younger
She says that guy is still alive and out there living his life. whatever his name is
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:31 pm to SammyTiger
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That’s probably on me
a lot of names to keep up with.
There is the brother in all the photos that’s supposed to be here when she’s younger
She says that guy is still alive and out there living his life. whatever his name is
the “official story”
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Brigitte is the youngest of six children born to Jean Trogneux (1909–1994) and Simone Pujol (1910–1998), who owned the renowned Chocolaterie Trogneux, now known as Jean Trogneux and managed by her nephew, Jean-Alexandre Trogneux.
Her siblings include Annie, Maryvonne, Monique, Jean-Claude, and Jean-Michel Trogneux. Tragically, Maryvonne passed away in 1960, and Jean-Claude died in 2018.
Jean-Michel, often mentioned in connection with the family business, resides in Amiens and has been linked to the chocolaterie’s operations.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:39 pm to Paddyshack
quote:Would not a simple chromosome test prove it one way or the other?
This allegations are so easy to prove/disprove and yet, I can’t think of any realistic means for providing the evidence.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:43 pm to imjustafatkid
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I'm not sure I understand why Candace Owens would have a problem with this.
Usually people would hire lawyers and lawyers would get investigators should they need it. But regardless of all that, what is there to gain by investigating CO? Blackmail? The issue at hand is whether lady macron is actually a dude. How does investigating CO help in proving lady micron is a lady?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:45 pm to SammyTiger
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If she submits to a dna test she can probably quash any other digging expedition.
She’s not the one that has to show anything at the moment.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:46 pm to Indefatigable
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She’s not the one that has to show anything at the moment.
No, but truth is a defense.
Owens is entitled to discovery to see if she can defend her case.
I dont think a judge would deny a medical examination or DNA test.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:48 pm to SammyTiger
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Owens is entitled to discovery to see if she can defend her case.
The threshold claim is based on what she had when she made the statements.
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dont think a judge would deny a medical examination or DNA test.
Fantasy. The case won’t get that far though.
You seem to be another that thinks discovery is some treasure trove panacea in conspiracy-related litigation. Pretty common belief around here.
If macron’s medical records are part of this at all, it’s going to be sealed and never disclosed. You’ll just see Owens settle.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:51 pm to Indefatigable
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The threshold claim is based on what she had when she made the statements.
The Truth is always a defense.
It’s hard to say she didn’t have a good reason to believe what she was was true if what she said was actually true.
So again, in discovery I think she could get a DNA test or medical exam or medical records.
Macron opens herself up to this a bit making this claim.
And I dont believe Macron is male. I think Owens is full of shite.
But l think the Macrons are looking to just take a nominal settlement and apology
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:09 pm to SammyTiger
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The Truth is always a defense. It’s hard to say she didn’t have a good reason to believe what she was was true if what she said was actually true.
And she’ll need to show her evidence of this “truth” at the time of the statements.
You can’t just say “it’s true”
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So again, in discovery I think she could get a DNA test or medical exam or medical records.
She *may* get a birth certificate.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:14 pm to Indefatigable
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And she’ll need to show her evidence of this “truth” at the time of the statements. You can’t just say “it’s true”
She can’t just say “it’s true” but she can prove it’s true now. If it’s true it’s true. You can’t defame someone with the truth. Even if you’re pulling it out your arse, if it’s true it’s true.
Bridgett can limit the scope of discovery, and have it put under seal, but she can’t avoid discovery after bringing the suit.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:18 pm to SammyTiger
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She can’t just say “it’s true” but she can prove it’s true now. If it’s true it’s true. You can’t defame someone with the truth. Even if you’re pulling it out your arse, if it’s true it’s true.
Then again—she has to show it’s true or that she held a reasonable belief it was true. With what she has. Not a fishing expedition.
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Bridgett can limit the scope of discovery, and have it put under seal, but she can’t avoid discovery after bringing the suit.
There is the all powerful discovery again
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:46 pm to Indefatigable
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If any of that occurs it will be under a protective order and will not be public. This will settle anyway.
I do not disagree with any of that
What I find amazing is that any halfway intelligent person could make any type of statement that would ever be construed as anything other than "opinion"
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