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re: Iowa voter, “we lost people because you supported the jab”.

Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:40 am to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:40 am to
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I do not think he ever mandated it. Please, if you do not mind, correct me with any facts you might have regarding POTUS Trump mandating a jab.


Can I correct you in the fact that OP never said the word “mandate”?
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:40 am to
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When the truth is finally revealed about the dangerous complications from taking the MRNA juice the Gas Media and the Anti Trump Forces will have convinced gullible Americans it was all Trump's doings

Very true, and why Trump really can't "swallow his pride and apologize".

People need to remember that Trump is probably the most litigated man in US history. He has to be careful with what he says more than anyone.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:40 am to
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And I'd like to see a rational response to why that was NOT the "right thing to do at the time" without all the caveats of what we learned AFTERWARDs.



The Stanford study showed that coronavirus was much more prevalent and far less deadly than the imperial model had showed. Other nations never locked down and weren’t having big problems though Trump continued to slam them. Warp Speed ignored FDA regulations for safety to get a “miracle” out so Trump could claim it as a talking point for re-election.

That “miracle” “vaccine” has done immeasurable damage to the world while Trump brags about stuffing the coffers of big pharma. If it were up to me, he along with everyone else involved with the creation of these vaccines would be tried for crimes against humanity.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:42 am to
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When the truth is finally revealed about the dangerous complications from taking the MRNA juice the Gas Media and the Anti Trump Forces will have convinced gullible Americans it was all Trump's doings.


Are you saying nothing is his fault?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49531 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:44 am to
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Let this albatross drag him under. Absolute dumbassery and callousness to play with health like this.


that is the dumbest piece of shite I've seen in a long time.

gtf outta here.

so let me get this straight - trump should have:

- NOT pushed the development of a vaccine - things progress as usual = maybe 6 years
- trusted the "SCIENCE" and mandated - MASKS and SHUTDOWNs
- NO CAMPAIGNING for fear of 'spreading the virus' - stay in basement
- ARREST anyone who disagrees

izzat what gets your 'approval?"
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49531 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:51 am to
- did you oppose the accelerated development of a vaccine - at the time???

- do you have a single instance of Trump advocating for MANDATES to take them??

- do you have a single instance of Trump advocating for shutdowns or masks??

quote:

tried for crimes against humanity.

for Fauci and everyone else in the chain of colluding with China in anything resembling 'gain of function'

show me a single instance of Trump supporting that.

otherwise - stfu.

where the hell is the hole you crawled out of??
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 8:53 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:53 am to
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for Fauci and everyone else in the chain of colluding with China in anything resembling 'gain of function' show me a single instance of Trump supporting that.


Trump put and kept Fauci in that position of power.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49531 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:59 am to
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Are you saying nothing is his fault?

not addressed to me - but NO - I do not find Trump FAULTLESS in this thing.

I just object to the fukcing LIEs being shouted about the way he handled it.

It would have been GREAT if Trump had disbanded the NIH and CDC under Fauci - but show me a single way that could have been done without DICTATORIAL power.

etc etc etc

In order for him to be PERFECT, he would have had to assume dictatorial power. period -

you guys amaze me. I get it - you want DeSantis as POTUS - so do I - but I'll be damned if if stand by and advocate for him by turning into DEMOCRAT methodology.

OR - you are DEMOCRATs charading as disgruntled GOPers - which is what I really suspect.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49531 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:01 am to
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Trump put and kept Fauci in that position of power

you ignorant piece of shite,

Fauci has been in that position for decades - it would have taken an act of congress to get rid of him

are you really this dumb?? - go back to the sandbox.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:02 am to
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did you oppose the accelerated development of a vaccine - at the time???


Yes

quote:

- do you have a single instance of Trump advocating for MANDATES to take them??


I don’t care. He urged his supporters to take it. Whether he did it under the threat or arrest or not is irrelevant to me.

quote:

- do you have a single instance of Trump advocating for shutdowns or masks??


Bruh… he’s said many times “we did the right thing, we shut the country down” and “Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact, they have an effect, and we need everything we can get,” he said at White House news briefing.

quote:

show me a single instance of Trump supporting that.


For all of it. The gain of function research, the lockdowns, and the vaccine. It’s one of the biggest crimes pulled off ever.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:02 am to
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for Fauci and everyone else in the chain of colluding with China in anything resembling 'gain of function

Let's no forget how Birx admitted in her book, after the fact, that she, I'm sure others, hid their real agenda while pushing certain phases of their plan. People are getting mad at Trump for believing people he should have been able to trust were doing/saying what was truly best.

A company CEO can only hope everyone in the company is on the same page for the benefit of the company/customers. Unfortunately, like Musk is seeing at Twitter, not all employees can be trusted. Which takes time to see and root out.

If anything Trump's term was definitely the eye opener we needed and the start of a new era in American history. Just hope we can take it by the horns and fix it. Cause it either going to get corrected or go to straight shite. The time is definitely now.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:02 am to
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conservatives had control of the Supreme Court


Thanks McConnell.

Meanwhile...

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:02 am to
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Fauci has been in that position for decades - it would have taken an act of congress to get rid of him


Trump could’ve moved him out of that role with one sentence. You’re a fricking liar. HE WAS THE PRESIDENT.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:03 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 am to
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Trump could’ve moved him out of that role with one sentence. You’re a fricking liar. HE WAS THE PRESIDENT.


He’s far too emotional right now to think this logically.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:05 am to
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Unfortunately, like Musk is seeing at Twitter, not all employees can be trusted. Which takes time to see and root out.




Musk did that within a week.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:05 am to
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People are getting mad at Trump for believing people he should have been able to trust were doing/saying what was truly best.



Bro

He ran his whole campaign on DRAINING THE SWAMP

It was known that there was corruption and enemies in every single facet of government.

He got in with the swamp and listened to them.

If he was fooled by them then he’s a frickING MORON.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:05 am to
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He got in with the swamp and listened to them.


And then continued to add to the swamp.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:11 am to
People wanted options. Trump gave them options. Turned out the career unelected bureaucrats and their BigPharma masters were the monsters we here knew they were.

What’s lost in all this is the lefts hypocrisy for calling Trump supporters cult members when Trump supporters are the overwhelming amount of PureBloods left on the planet.

Group think mind hive leftists hate individualism.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28170 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:20 am to
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Most people would admit it was a mistake, why can't he?


You realize we’re talking about a guy who can’t even admit that Christopher Wray was a mistake. In his mind he doesn’t make mistakes; people just turn on him.

IF he ever decided to reverse course on the shot that he claim he developed, it would go something like this:

“I had the best plan in the world; really the Best Plan EVER devised by the greatest president ever, me. But Big Pharma LIED about the Shot and told me it was SAFE. They are not MAGA, and they Deceived the American people!!!”
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22729 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:20 am to
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I know Trump did not mandate the vaccine.

Didn't his administration mandate for some of its own workers?
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:31 am
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