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re: Iowa Selzer poll has Kamala in the lead

Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125649 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:32 pm to
Accuracy is great.
Believability is also important.

Trump could lose on Tuesday. He won’t lose Iowa. And it won’t be close.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:33 pm to
Yea, this is the literal definition of a suppression poll.

If this was true it would be a Reagan level sweep for Harris.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:34 pm to
Are you people stupid??
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:35 pm to
Yea, I am pessimistic, but anyone freaking out and believing this poll is literally retarded.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:35 pm to
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This is what’s strange. She was the only one who had any accuracy in a sea of polling shite in 2016 and 2020. When the 2016 poll came out it sent shockwaves through confident Democrats.

But this poll makes no sense. This feels like it’s going to be an absolute nuke to her great reputation. I will eat a warm slice of Anderson Cooper’s arse if Kamala wins Iowa.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:38 pm to
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But this poll makes no sense. This feels like it’s going to be an absolute nuke to her great reputation. I will eat a warm slice of Anderson Cooper’s arse if Kamala wins Iowa.
Trump would be a literal reincarnation of Mondale if he lost Iowa. He would lose nearly every state.

This is a 100% suppression poll.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
5000 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:39 pm to
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Internal polling is what campaigns follow. If this was within 3 points either way they both would’ve been in Iowa and their surrogates would’ve been there too. Harris and her surrogates and Trump and his surrogates have not been in Iowa. Their internals are telling them that it’s not close and worth investing the time.


That’s the reality. Neither side has set foot in Iowa. They haven’t even had 2nd tier members of the campaign go there like a Mark Cuban. There only goi g to places where they have a shot. Trumps not going to AZ or NV which means he has either wrapped them up or lost them. Most believe the wrapped up. He’s spending his time in PA and NC above anywhere else and will wrap in MI.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3569 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:44 pm to
Here is how far from reality this poll is. If Trump only got 44% of the Iowa vote, he would have to have dropped from 897,672 votes in 2020 to almost 730,000 in 2024. He won Iowa 53 to 45 in 2020. He will most likely win it by more than that this year.They obviously can't poll Iowa well, because even in 2020 RCP/538 only had him up between 1 and 2% and he won by 8.



Posted by xxGEAUXxx
minneapolis
Member since Dec 2012
1315 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:44 pm to
Iowa will be 7+ plus for Trump. A lot of issues for land owners to vote on that usually don’t get out and vote.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:46 pm to
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No idea. I am shocked. I thought at best for Kamala it would be +3 for Trump.


and you believe this shite....lol
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Trump up 3.8 in Iowa is a massive red flag. Either Trump gets smashed in the election or this pollster will lose all of their built up reputation.

But to note, this is how polls work, there's 95% confidence and 5% chance that the poll is just totally off.

Posted by Z Cavaricci
Member since Jun 2020
1939 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194905 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:48 pm to
If this was accomplished through a vast conspiracy that had the capability to pull off

they would not show their hand on Iowa this early

I would love to play y'all in some high stakes poker
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Yeah there is no way to paint this as a good thing for Trump.


LMAO...you are very very very low T.......if you believe this
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:50 pm to
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She was. Then on Mark Halperin's show she admitted to not releasing a August poll because her "client" would not let her. After that I new she was bought and paid for

When one only releases one side of outliers... then one is a liar.

Shame that she sold her reputation then.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13926 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:50 pm to
She polled way more democrats…. Her 2020 recalled vote was even
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25421 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 8:14 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38580 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:53 pm to
Right

Dems would’ve been stoked if it was *only* Trump +3-4

It’s a newsworthy result from a quality pollster
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:54 pm to
use some common sense man

no one has even campaigned there.....by all means believe what you want. She just sold her soul to the dems it appears.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26431 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:54 pm to
Your melts next week are going to be amazing
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