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re: Iowa Selzer poll has Kamala in the lead

Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Uhh replacing a candidate is a pretty huge event


You don't reading comprehension too good
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22846 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:22 pm to
This is just too wild to be believable in any way. No state is going to swing like that in any election, especially Iowa
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25210 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:22 pm to
Polls this late in the game are merely trying to scare and influence voters.....

Pay no attention to them....
Posted by 32footsteps
Member since Oct 2017
607 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:23 pm to
Internal polling is what campaigns follow. If this was within 3 points either way they both would’ve been in Iowa and their surrogates would’ve been there too. Harris and her surrogates and Trump and his surrogates have not been in Iowa. Their internals are telling them that it’s not close and worth investing the time.
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
3424 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Thats everything from Trump up 3.8% to Harris up 9.8%


Trump up 3.8 in Iowa is a massive red flag. Either Trump gets smashed in the election or this pollster will lose all of their built up reputation.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115312 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:23 pm to
That's funny, I don't care who you are.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143778 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:23 pm to
KIM REYNOLDS YALL!!!
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
9079 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:24 pm to
bullshite.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39590 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:24 pm to
If you read what I was responding to and understand polling then it’ll clear things up for you
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22846 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21037 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:24 pm to
14 Trumps and 1 Harris means Harris.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Selzer is a good poll, they are actually polling and releasing, polls are not that accurate.


She was. Then on Mark Halperin's show she admitted to not releasing a August poll because her "client" would not let her. After that I new she was bought and paid for
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:26 pm to
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So neither campaigns which have their own internal polling have spent any time in the state whatsoever and we are supposed to believe this result?
This.

If Harris felt she could win Iowa, she would be in Iowa.

This poll would have you believe that there was a 10 point shift from Trump to Harris.

That is fricking insane.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22846 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Selzer is one of the more accurate and reliable polls



Not after Tuesday

Trump could lose and Iowa would still be Trump+7 there
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25532 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Emerson poll is +11 in Iowa today
and that matches what we saw from Iowa in the last 2 elections. Trump is polling better this go round nationally too. I wonder what the purpose of Selzer releasing such an obvious outlier like this is, trying to get out the Trump vote?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:27 pm to
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So neither campaigns which have their own internal polling have spent any time in the state whatsoever and we are supposed to believe this result?


Who is believing this?

It’s not going to be close in Iowa. This pollster has thrown herself on a sword for some unknown reason.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84300 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:28 pm to
Baris reported months ago that she also buried a Trump +19 poll when Biden was still in the race this summer.

There's no doubt in my mind she took a payoff to help the hope gaslighting campaign.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196501 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:29 pm to
It would be a very simple thing for some political consulting firm to pay them to release a poll with narrow metrics

To try to get as most desired or result as possible in fact they could have paid four different polling organizations to put a poll out in Iowa just to get this kind of response to have misinformation to spread


I've done this very thing albeit not in a presidential election
but this is so easy to do and there are so many different organizations out there that will do polls and if you Pay for it you can decide whether to make it public
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22352 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:29 pm to
Selzer has a pretty good track record FWIW

Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:31 pm to
Told ya Kamala was going to win. Can’t wait for the meltdown on Tuesday
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