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re: Interesting look at what Rasmussen considers SWING states. Polling begins next week

Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:39 am to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:39 am to
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think it bodes very well for Biden that five of the six midwest swing states were “trump” states in 2016. Biden stands to have more to gain than he has to lose.


No way Biden loses.
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:40 am to
And how has the Dem platform changed in the last 4 years?

More or less likely to recapture those Midwest states?
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:45 am to
Biden certainly could lose, but to state that five of the six midwest states that trump won are still in play is not to Biden’s advantage is ludicrous.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:47 am to
It would be to Biden’s advantages if his party hadn’t gone bugfrick crazy in the last 4 years.

They lost a lot of these areas last time because blue collar Dems, mainly white men, defected to the GOP. You think those voters are coming back due to Biden?
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:50 am to
These are swing states for US Senate, which is why you have TX, FL, and GA shown.

For example, John Cornyn is up for reelection in TX. This is considered a swing state due to how close the 2018 Senate race was, but that election cycle did not include Trump.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:50 am to
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, but to state that five of the six midwest states that trump won are still in play is not to Biden’s advantage is ludicrous
This is stupid. Those states have always in play since at least 2000. The fact that Michigan and Pennsylvania are in play is the eyeopener since 2016. Minnesota has never been in play until this year. That is all to Trumps benefit. You really don't know much.
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:51 am to
And Cornyn is not Ted Cruz, who was last election’s candidate.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:52 am to
I seriously don’t think that Biden is as disliked as HRC was/is, and I think that may work in his favor. He lost Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania all by very slim margins. If you don’t think that Biden has a chance to flip those states, I don’t know what to tell you. I am not saying that Biden is going to win, but it is going to be a close race.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:53 am to
Personal likability only goes so far when your party is the face of “defund the police” and rioting a score of major cities. Several of which are in the Midwest such as Minneapolis.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:54 am to
Ok. Five of the six states that Clinton lost are still in play for Biden. Very bad news for Biden. I get it now. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140866 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:12 am to
Where did I say that my litttle proggie friend?

Dementia Joe. Our hero.

I should work on his campaign.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:12 am to
Wrong

Texas was only won by trump with 700k votes (Cruz only won by 200k votes)

Georgia by 200k votes

Florida by 100k votes

Those are the definitions of swing states
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:19 am to
My only response to you was that Biden certainly could lose. Some other poster implied that the fact that those midwestern states are in play is bad news for Biden. What happened in 2016 is much more relevant to this election that what has happened since 2000. No problem.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:28 am to
They are asking for contributions to create polls which they then sell to the candidates.

Why wouldn't they include as many states as possible?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:37 am to
Keep being obtuse.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:41 am to
They forgot NH
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:44 am to
quote:

 Some other poster implied that the fact that those midwestern states are in play is bad news for Biden
You said it was good for Biden, as if those states Trump won in 2016 should be on lock for him now. I pointed out that those midwest states, except for Mi, PA and MN are always battleground states. They were for Bush and Obama. And, both won reelection. Just because you win a state in one election does not make it a given that you will a second time, hence the fact that it is a battle ground again says nothing about Bidens chances.

What is noteworthy is that three states that were on lock for dems, PA, MI, and now MN, are good news for Trump.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3933 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Texas was only won by trump with 700k votes


Trump won by 807,000 votes (9%) and that is a HUGE margin to overcome. It will not happen.

quote:

Georgia by 200k votes


Georgia's numbers are virtually identical to Virginia. But I don't hear anybody proclaiming Virginia as a swing state.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96506 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 12:00 pm to
Because the Dems have continued pouring into VA like locusts the past four years.

The people of the state may need to burn the fields and let them sit fallow them rebuild.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52926 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 12:02 pm to
I guess that will make Joe look pretty bad when he can only win 2 or 3 of the 14 swing states.
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