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Interesting Article from the NYT in 1910 re; healthcare prices
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:48 pm
This doctor was complaining that "lodge practice" was driving the cost of healthcare too LOW; An Evil on the East Side
Government and cronies have been working hard ever since to "solve" the problem of low cost health care.
It's a fricking shame more people don't know about this history.
quote:
"Among the local medical community, especially of the lower east side, there has sprung up of late years an evil so virile, so powerful, and so destructive toward medical ideals, that in time only a mythical Perseus will have to spring forth to destroy this Gorgon Medusa if concerted action on the part of the east side medical profession is not taken to check it now"
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"At the present time there are in existence downtown somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000 lodges, societies, and benevolent associations founded mainly by the poorer class of workingmen for a double purpose; namely, social intercourse and mutual aid or benevolence."
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"But now the guilt had been revered. It was the doctors who sought after the societies, and not vice versa, as formerly. The societies found that, inasmuch as physicians were so anxious to be their lodge doctors, they could well afford to discriminate and choose from a number of candidates."
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"What a degrading spectacle it is to see three or four medical men at one these society elections."
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"Today there is scarcely an east side workingman who is not a member of some association which has a physician to take charge of it's members."
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"With very few exceptions the market price 'per head' is as follows: One dollar a year for each unmarried member and $3 a year for every married member, including his family."
Government and cronies have been working hard ever since to "solve" the problem of low cost health care.
It's a fricking shame more people don't know about this history.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 9:49 pm
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:56 pm to stuntman
This area of American history is criminally under researched.
The AMA plays such a large role in inflated healthcare prices.
In the early 1900s up until the 30s/40s, something like 50% of all Med schools were shut down.
The AMA plays such a large role in inflated healthcare prices.
In the early 1900s up until the 30s/40s, something like 50% of all Med schools were shut down.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yep, plus they were behind all the licensing boards. Just a huge scheme to jack up their incomes.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
In the early 1900s up until the 30s/40s, something like 50% of all Med schools were shut down.
I believe that more facilities existed before 1920 than do now, if I recall correctly.
Mutual aid societies were the shite.
Like credit unions for healthcare.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:01 pm to HempHead
quote:Statists have effectively erased these things from the history books.
Mutual aid societies were the shite.
But they existed.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is how a free market actually works and solves problems.
Only reason healthcare is so expensive is regulations and Govt control
Only reason healthcare is so expensive is regulations and Govt control
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:21 pm to deltaland
"Spontaneous order"....it's beautiful thing.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:32 pm to stuntman
quote:
"With very few exceptions the market price 'per head' is as follows: One dollar a year for each unmarried member and $3 a year for every married member, including his family."
Which translates to $25.68 and $77.03 in today's Dollars.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:38 pm to stuntman
Back in my day... when you got sick, you died.
That's the way it was and we liked it!
That's the way it was and we liked it!
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:41 pm to M. A. Ryland
Weird how life expectancies were rising during that whole time, isn't it?
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:50 pm to stuntman
NYT=fake news per trump.
I'm sure it applies to 1910 as well.
I'm sure it applies to 1910 as well.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:51 pm to Clark14
Did you even read the article? It is so grossly biased against the working poor that it isn't even funny.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:55 pm to Clark14
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NYT=fake news per trump.
I'm sure it applies to 1910 as well.
Well, it seems they were trying to help promote the idea that lower healthcare costs were a BAD thing for society. So, there's that.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:09 pm to stuntman
quote:
Well, it seems they were trying to help promote the idea that lower healthcare costs were a BAD thing for society. So, there's that.
Sounds like democrats.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 4:44 am to stuntman
Thanks for posting this.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 5:42 am to stuntman
If you want 1910 quality health care you are more than welcome to pay 1910 prices for it.
Heart attack treatment in 1910: Hope you have an aspirin at home. Take it. Tell a neighbor to go get doc. Messenger and doctor get on their horses and ride to your house. He hangs around waiting to see if you will die.
Heart attack treatment in 2019: You call 911. An air conditioned ambulance comes do your door. Depending on where you are the ambulance crew does an EKG on site which is transmitted digitally to your nearest hospital where a decision is made on which facility to send you to. That transport may end up involving a helicopter. You go there, get a cardiac cath, possibly stents, possibly bypass surgery, cardiac rehab, and a variety of medicines along the way.
Yes, this does cost more than an aspirin and a house call.
Heart attack treatment in 1910: Hope you have an aspirin at home. Take it. Tell a neighbor to go get doc. Messenger and doctor get on their horses and ride to your house. He hangs around waiting to see if you will die.
Heart attack treatment in 2019: You call 911. An air conditioned ambulance comes do your door. Depending on where you are the ambulance crew does an EKG on site which is transmitted digitally to your nearest hospital where a decision is made on which facility to send you to. That transport may end up involving a helicopter. You go there, get a cardiac cath, possibly stents, possibly bypass surgery, cardiac rehab, and a variety of medicines along the way.
Yes, this does cost more than an aspirin and a house call.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 5:45 am
Posted on 4/17/19 at 5:43 am to PowerTool
Thanks for taking the time to check it out. 
Posted on 4/17/19 at 5:45 am to Boatshoes
Nonsensical post.
Healthcare was better in 1910 than it was in 1890. Things were getting better, yet prices were being driven down.
Healthcare was better in 1910 than it was in 1890. Things were getting better, yet prices were being driven down.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 5:58 am to stuntman
quote:Interesting indeed. as is the Surgery Center of Oklahoma model. Allowing MDs to compete in pricing and service would be a boon to Healthcare value. But no! Instead, government does just the opposite. It offers fixed reimbursement, anticompetitive regulation, severe practice restraint, and encouragement of inefficiency.
Interesting Article from the NYT in 1910 re; healthcare prices
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:07 am to Bard
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Which translates to $25.68 and $77.03 in today's Dollars
To be fair we aren't talking about the same product. This is one of the dangers of comparing prices over time. Just because one could buy something called healthcare in 1920 and one can buy something called healthcare in 2019 doesn't mean those two things with the same name are remotely the same product.
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