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re: Incredible facts about progress on opioid epidemic
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:57 am to TigerBait1971
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:57 am to TigerBait1971
The crisis is -- how we have systematically address this and the crack crisis is 100% debatable.
If we dont like that particular adjective, we should perhaps treat people better initially and be more understanding and empathetic towards them (like we are doing now), rather than waiting 30 years after family units have been destroyed, millions of men have be jailed and criminalized, and a generation has been loss to the epidemic.
If we dont like that particular adjective, we should perhaps treat people better initially and be more understanding and empathetic towards them (like we are doing now), rather than waiting 30 years after family units have been destroyed, millions of men have be jailed and criminalized, and a generation has been loss to the epidemic.
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:58 am to Vastmind
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Suboxone is it’s own special kind of hell. People need to let their nuts hang and go cold turkey.
This is the truth. I had a girlfriend that quit hydros with the help of Suboxone and at first it was great, but then it just became swapping one addiction for another. Not only that, but the withdrawals from them are 10x worse than opioids.
I heard a crazy fact the other day through work:
In Arkansas (one of the worst states for opioid usage in every metric) there is 114 opioid prescriptions for every 100 people in the state. THAT is a self-made epidemic.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:59 am to StrongSafety
Why do you think the situations are viewed differently?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:59 am to StrongSafety
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But i cant help but languish over how we humanized these addicts and criminalized the crack addicts and have made no real amends or reparations towards those folks. Its debased at its core.
This something I totally agree with and in fact its one of the areas I agree with Democrats on. The way we addressed both crisis is basically racist. the opioid epidemic is a crisis that affects mainly the white working classes so its treated as an epidemic. The crack epidemic was an urban problem affecting primarily black and it was lock em up.
Corey Booker and Kamala Harris called out Barr on this in his confirmation and I totally agree with them.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:02 am to TigerBait1971
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Why do you think the situations are viewed differently?
Theres a litany of reasons. One of which is just a lack of knowledge or understanding. Society has grown to be more empathic as our knowledge base about these horrors has grown and as our communities have become more interconnected.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:05 am to 14&Counting
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Corey Booker and Kamala Harris called out Barr on this in his confirmation and I totally agree with them.
Barr wrote a book on how basically jailing more minority men was actually a good thing....
Mueller investigation aside...should we really have a man as our top DOJ official that is that at odds with our current understanding of how destructive and punitive those policies are? It literally destroys communities and generations and have 0 to none long term beneficial effects on these groups. If anything, it just makes things worse.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:30 am to StrongSafety
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Mueller investigation aside...should we really have a man as our top DOJ official that is that at odds with our current understanding of how destructive and punitive those policies are? It literally destroys communities and generations and have 0 to none long term beneficial effects on these groups. If anything, it just makes things worse.
Barr is solid and I love what he is doing with this collusion nonsense.
His response to Harris and Booker was that the crack epidemic came with a lot of violence that really impacted the black community more than anyone. The thinking was that they needed draconian laws to get violent criminals, gang members, out of those communities to try and make them safer. It was more about having tools to lock up the violent offenders warring over turf more than anything.
He did acknowledge the issue but basically said its up to Congress to write the laws. He is opposed to marijuana legalization but won't enforce it in those states that have legalized it. he stated that Congress needs to get off their arse and amend the marijuana law at the federal level.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:33 am to Lima Whiskey
I was born poor. Drugs don't fix that. Hard work does.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Less Narcan would be a good step. If you get to the point you’re ODing, you’re lost anyway. Most of these people are not saveable. Their minds are fried to the point of no recovery. Even off drugs they are zombies.
I’m seven years in recovery and I’m absolutely crushing it right now. Zombies don’t dominate like this.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:08 pm to Vastmind
That's awesome. Congrats on getting your shite together.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:19 pm to StrongSafety
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criminalized the crack addicts and have made no real amends or reparations towards those folks. Its debased at its core.
Reparations?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:34 pm to Vastmind
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I’m seven years in recovery and I’m absolutely crushing it right now. Zombies don’t dominate like this.
You overdosed and had to be saved with Narcan?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:16 pm to StrongSafety
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But i cant help but languish over how we humanized these addicts and criminalized the crack addicts and have made no real amends or reparations towards those folks.
If you think we "humanized" opiate users you are fricking crazy. They even dehumanized legitimate patients like me. AND the fact that you used the term "reparations" is shitty.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:19 pm to StrongSafety
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But i cant help but languish over how we humanized these addicts and criminalized the crack addicts
Youre socially retarded.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:20 pm to trinidadtiger
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However, I gotta say, (and I am a huge Trump fan), when he says he will decrease by a third and the CDC announces 33.3% less OD deaths.....me thinks the govt hired some unemployed global warming statiticians to do their own "cooking" show...Im just sayin.
It says 3.3%.
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