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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:04 pm to
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I'm not Canadian, so I don't know about their laws, however, your comment above is pure BS where I live


Same, which is why his "universally" claim is dumb as frick. He;'s emotional here and reaching.

This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:04 pm to
So answer guys question. Who do you hate more Trump supporters or Christian’s?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:04 pm to
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These don't match

Sure they do. The reference to the show "going on" means they started it despite being told they didn't have a permit. Then they were shut down for doing this without a permit.

Also, this story about the original permit being revoked clearly shows the type of event this was:

quote:

On Wednesday morning, the event page said the show would go ahead at a "new location that's even better than the old one," and asked people to send a direct message for the venue.

The free concert will now take place at a location in Shubenacadie, N.S., a rural area about 60 kilometres north of Halifax. That address is associated with a religious group called Lighthouse Ministries.


So they knew they needed the permit originally, due to the type of event, and thought they could pretend the nature of the event changed b/c the second location was a church.

These people need to read the portions of the Bible involved with lying.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Who do you hate more Trump supporters or Christian’s?

I don't hate either
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:05 pm to
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I'm willing to look it over once you post it.

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This case raises the following questions:

1. Did the Ontario restrictions on the size of religious gatherings interfere with the fundamental guarantee of freedom of religion in s. 2(a) of the Charter?

2. Did the restrictions interfere with other fundamental freedoms guaranteed in s. 2 of the Charter?

3. If there was interference with freedom of religion, or other freedoms guaranteed by s. 2 of the Charter, are such limitations reasonable and demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society under s. 1 of the Charter?


https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2022/2022onsc1344/2022onsc1344.html

Canadian freedom of religious gatherings was a recent point of contention.

That case quite well lays out the case law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:06 pm to
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The whole point is the mayor wouldn’t allow him to have a permit which is why he held it in a church.

So you're admitting they're just engaging in a ruse, to skirt governmental rules.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:06 pm to
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So they knew they needed the permit originally, due to the type of event, and thought they could pretend the nature of the event changed b/c the second location was a church.

These people need to read the portions of the Bible involved with lying.


You are so mad right now you've turned into a mindless bootlicker. What an amazing performance.
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
16632 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:08 pm to
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Why should churches be excluded from general application of the law?


Dude, give it up. Getting a permit for a show is a formality. You know why he was initially denied one. You’re on the wrong side.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:09 pm to
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You have to have permits for events universally

Universally- by everyone; in every case.
I’m assuming you mean this is the case just in the US and Canada? How can you possibly know the laws in every country, state, territory, etc. across the entire globe?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:10 pm to
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In Hutterian, the cost imposed by the law was of a secular nature. To adhere to the religion was to forego the requirements for a valid driver’s licence. The effect of religious belief was to require alternate forms of transport. While this had the potential to breach the insularity of the community, the cost of not driving was extraneous to the religious experience itself. Persons faced with a choice between their religious tenets and the right to drive were free to choose their religious tenets. There are any number of analogous costs flowing from religious adherence. Where religious practice conflicts with another activity, the answer may be to give up the other activity, that being the cost of the religious beliefs.


This seems to directly address the same concept as general applicability of event permits.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:10 pm to
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You are so mad

Mad?

quote:

you've turned into a mindless bootlicker

wut? For calling them liars?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Universally- by everyone; in every case.


Yep. Thats a hard one for him to overcome.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Dude, give it up. Getting a permit for a show is a formality. You know why he was initially denied one. You’re on the wrong side.


Why should churches be excluded from general application of the law?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:13 pm to
Yes, for calling them liars. You're being absolutely retarded about this.

Muh ruse
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
16632 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Why should churches be excluded from general application of the law?


You know that’s not the real issue.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:13 pm to
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You are so mad right now you've turned into a mindless bootlicker.


He's moving hard toward Statism.

Goes to show you everyone is a statist when they oppose certain things.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21292 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:13 pm to
He could be correct about Canada and the US? What do I know about permits? I definitely don’t know anything about permits across the entire planet. That’s quite a statement. LOL
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:15 pm to
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He could be correct about Canada and the US? What do I know about permits? I definitely don’t know anything about permits across the entire planet.


Well I know for a fact we didnt have to have one here for a concert, so its is absolutely not "universal."

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Yes, for calling them liars. You're being absolutely retarded about this.

Because I'm pointing out the dishonesty in the ruse?

I am not a huge fan of permits and local zoning, but I don't think people should get special treatment...and they DEFINITELY shouldn't get special treatment because they lied. That makes it so much worse.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:15 pm to
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