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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:38 pm to
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it was pretty clear to everyone else it was not a normal worship service
Churches have different types of worship services all the time, FTR. You probably wouldn't know about that. There isn't a "normal" type of worship service genius

I went to a service where a jazz quartet from the nearby university played. There were no words sung, only instruments. It was clearly a concert. I know for a fact there were no "permits" involved
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:38 pm to
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The lily white Canadian left’s obsession with indigenous stuff batshit insane


Aussies, Kiwis, and Californians too...

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:39 pm to
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not the same concert he had been attempting (requiring a permit) everywhere else
So you admit he's had other concerts at other locations. And he says his permit request was denied, contrary to the other events he's had at other locations that you acknowledge

You are wrong, yet again. But I totally get that your asperger's will not let you admit it.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:39 pm to
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Drag show without a permit. You think police are going to show up and warn them?


After doing the tiniest amount of research, there’s no equivalency here.

This wasn’t some run of the mill, “worship service.” This guy has a full band, he sold out multiple arenas and stadiums this year. He’s an enormous deal apparently in the Christian rock scene.

Sure, antifa were there because they’re a bunch of douche bags protesting this guys politics(of which he seems to be incredibly vocal about from his stage, but I digress), and because he’s a Christian.

But, if Rage Against The Machine decided they were going to do a free concert in your neighborhood, you could have very legitimate concerns about a free pop up event of that size. Like it or not, there are zoning laws in all municipalities that protect the neighborhoods and citizens from having Rage Against the Machine, from having an anarchy antifa concert in your backyard, and conversely, from having an enormous Christian rock show on your block. The rules don’t change because one is singing about Jesus.

This isn’t very hard.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:40 pm to
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The standard variables/concerns for all events
Typical obfuscation
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:40 pm to
We went to 5pm Mass a few weeks ago and they had the usual guitar but he was accompanied by a brass ensemble. It was awesome.

I immediately called the police since the concert was not permitted. No one is above the law.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:41 pm to
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They were told this wouldn't work prior to the event
Which highights the obvious hypocrisy. Well, obvious to people who don't have asperger's at least

Allow worship services all the time all over the city
MAGA friendly artist shows up - OH NO YOU DON'T
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:41 pm to
To clear everything up for everyone.

Feucht applied for permits for his concerts/worship events because they were on public land.

The city governments were able to revoke the permits because they were on public land (though some Canadians believe Feucht’s rights were violated even by these cancellations).

There is no grounds for saying he needed a permit to setup in a church and sing any songs. He wasn’t violating noise level restrictions. There was no disruption by his event to parking or street capacity. He was singing in a church.

This isn’t controversial to say he didn’t need a permit and that the church didn’t need a permit.

If you’re a dumb bitch like SFP, you like making things complicated and pretending you have special knowledge that makes dumb shite sound reasonable. But it’s dumb shite being parroted by a dumb bitch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:41 pm to
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So you admit he's had other concerts at other locations. And he says his permit request was denied, contrary to the other events he's had at other locations that you acknowledge

I said attempting. The permits were revoked at most, if not all, of the prior attempts.

quote:

You are wrong, yet again.

You clearly don't know what "attempting" means, apparently
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
So the city refused a permit to a group because they knew left wing extremist would bring violence.

This is just another piece of evidence pointing to the mass mental illness that grips left wingers.

They realize they are emotional dipshits who cannot control themselves.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
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He’s an enormous deal apparently in the Christian rock scene.


No, he’s not.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35335 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
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If you host an event at a church, you need a permit. You can't spin it as "worship" to break the law.


Do you even listen to yourself?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477252 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
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There is no grounds for saying he needed a permit to setup in a church and sing any songs. He wasn’t violating noise level restrictions. There was no disruption by his event to parking or street capacity. He was singing in a church.


This is getting as desperate as the "grannies at the Capitol" lies about J6

Just stop, dude.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Laws of general applicability apply to churches as well
Then why does this happen nearly every week at churches all over the country? Why are Hillsong or CeCe Winans allowed to have concerts every week and no permits are required?

You are wrong
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477252 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:43 pm to
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After doing the tiniest amount of research, there’s no equivalency here.

This wasn’t some run of the mill, “worship service.” This guy has a full band, he sold out multiple arenas and stadiums this year. He’s an enormous deal apparently in the Christian rock scene.

Sure, antifa were there because they’re a bunch of douche bags protesting this guys politics(of which he seems to be incredibly vocal about from his stage, but I digress), and because he’s a Christian.

But, if Rage Against The Machine decided they were going to do a free concert in your neighborhood, you could have very legitimate concerns about a free pop up event of that size. Like it or not, there are zoning laws in all municipalities that protect the neighborhoods and citizens from having Rage Against the Machine, from having an anarchy antifa concert in your backyard, and conversely, from having an enormous Christian rock show on your block. The rules don’t change because one is singing about Jesus.

This isn’t very hard.

Correct

But watch out
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:43 pm to
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Playing Devil's Advocate, are they charging for tickets to the event or are the doors open for worship.


Not sure, and not sure it matters.

The city wasnt going to issue the band a permit regardless of where they chose to perform. Thats clear.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:44 pm to
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from having an enormous Christian rock show on your block.


There weren’t 200 people in attendance. Any other idiocy you want to add?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:44 pm to
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But if you have a concert in a church? That's different
Either you are factually incorrect or LEO turns a blind eye to this happening every week to the point that it's de facto not illegal. The latter is probably not the case which means you are wrong, again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477252 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Then why does this happen nearly every week at churches all over the country?

It doesn't

Legally, at least.

quote:

Why are Hillsong or CeCe Winans allowed to have concerts every week and no permits are required?


Like these? You don't think those have permits?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:45 pm to
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This is getting as desperate as the "grannies at the Capitol" lies about J6


Feel free to dispute anything. Or are you entering your ad hom phase for this thread?

I would advise just exiting and hoping the thread drops off the front page.
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