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re: In fundraising speech, Trump says he made up trade claim in meeting with Justin Trudeau
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:14 am to tigerinDC09
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:14 am to tigerinDC09
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We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesn’t like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and that’s how I know!
And Now Trump as expected, is doubling down on the lie.
Tell me why this should upset me.
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:14 am to 90proofprofessional
Uh oh, Trump is mad people are correcting him... Gonna be a fun twitter day!
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We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesn’t like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and that’s how I know!
They almost all do! Therefore Canada must! And since that FEELS true to me, there's nothing wrong with me asserting it as fact in a meeting with a fellow world leader despite my complete ignorance of the matter!
@realDonaldTrump
41m41 minutes ago
We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesn’t like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and that’s how I know!
They almost all do! Therefore Canada must! And since that FEELS true to me, there's nothing wrong with me asserting it as fact in a meeting with a fellow world leader despite my complete ignorance of the matter!
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:15 am to LSURussian
From your own Bloomberg article:
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Since it’s the Trump administration crying foul, Canadian officials say it’s only fair to use the U.S. government’s own assessment of trade imbalances.
“Canada does not see trade balances as a useful measure of the benefits of trade, but since the U.S. does, we’re using their own data that clearly states the United States has a trade surplus with Canada,” Adam Austen, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, said in an emailed statement.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:15 am to LSURussian
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Yes.
No. That's laughable.
Any discussion of production in the economy includes "goods and services" as the output metric.
See BEA's definition of GDP:
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Gross domestic product (GDP) is the value of the goods and services produced by the nation’s economy
less the value of the goods and services used up in production.
See also their concept of net exports:
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GDP is also equal to the sum of personal
consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, net exports of goods and services, and government consumption expenditures and gross investment.
LINK
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:16 am to UofLSU
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And since that FEELS true to me, there's nothing wrong with me asserting it as fact in a meeting with a fellow world leader despite my complete ignorance of the matter!
This should be the main takeaway from the linked article in the OP.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:16 am to LSURussian
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Why? The meeting was to discuss the trade imbalance involving goods like aluminum and steel. They weren't there to discuss consulting services.
Then maybe he shouldn't say we have a trade deficit, because that has an actual definition. And it's not whatever adhoc definition he finds convenient.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:17 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Tell me why this should upset me.
Because Trump or his Social Media manager posted it. Thats why you should be enraged
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:18 am to The Spleen
quote:I'm sorry. Did I hurt your feelings? Do you need a hug? Do you need a safe space?
I'm not the one lobbing insults in every post
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:18 am to LSURussian
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Why? The meeting was to discuss the trade imbalance involving goods like aluminum and steel. They weren't there to discuss consulting services.
Post the quote in the article where Trump and Trudeau were talking about steel and aluminum.
You cant. You just made that up.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:18 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Tell me why this should upset me.
I don't think it should. Maybe if you put stock in what Trump says, it might demonstrate his willingness to say things without any regard whatsoever for their truth or accuracy, and that might bother some.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:20 am to UofLSU
quote:See this is my issue. We are sitting here arguing over what what types of trade should be included and shite, all the while world leaders are looking at this and understanding that Trump is completely ignorant on the matter and just saying things because of "intuition"
They almost all do! Therefore Canada must! And since that FEELS true to me, there's nothing wrong with me asserting it as fact in a meeting with a fellow world leader despite my complete ignorance of the matter!
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:21 am to 90proofprofessional
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I don't think it should. Maybe if you put stock in what Trump says, it might demonstrate his willingness to say things without any regard whatsoever for their truth or accuracy, and that might bother some.
Okay
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:23 am to 90proofprofessional
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might demonstrate his willingness to say things without any regard whatsoever for their truth or accuracy, and that might bother some.
So basically yall are crying and mad classic
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:25 am to SDVTiger
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So basically yall are crying and mad classic
i just said that i don't think it upset anyone try harder
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:28 am to LSURussian
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Did I hurt your feelings?
Don't flatter yourself.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:29 am to Yak
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See this is my issue. We are sitting here arguing over what what types of trade should be included and shite, all the while world leaders are looking at this and understanding that Trump is completely ignorant on the matter and just saying things because of "intuition"
Bingo.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:29 am to 90proofprofessional
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i just said that i don't think it upset anyone
try harder
Where's the line between being upset and being "bothered"?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:30 am to 90proofprofessional
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just said that i don't think it upset anyone
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and that might bother some.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:31 am to Y.A. Tittle
i suppose that'd be up to the individual who may take Trump at his word
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:39 am to SDVTiger
So now we just have SDVTiger and LsuRussian just trolling people rather than trying to defend the lie Trump just tweeted.
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