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re: I'm not marksman, but I've done some shooting. A 125 yard head shot with a moving target
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:48 am to Diamondawg
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:48 am to Diamondawg
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easier target and just as lethal as a head shot
He's not arguing that a center mass shot would not have been effective, just that he came extremely close on the difficult head shot he did in fact take.
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:49 am to REB BEER
quote:Or a hot doe 100 yards in front of him.
They don’t stop to look around with a pack of hounds on em.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:51 am to Diamondawg
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I've shot running deer at 250 yards.
I've killed a few moving coyotes at that distance with my AR with the iron sights.
That rifle is a tack driver.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:02 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Probably wouldn't be my first choice, but a good AR-15 is plenty accurate enough for that shot. Then you add in the advantage of being able to break it down in pieces to hide in different places on site ahead of time, or disguised as a folding chair, and snap it together in a few seconds.
On top of that, a loony lefty killing Trump with an AR-15 would probably be some kind of political statement.
On top of that, a loony lefty killing Trump with an AR-15 would probably be some kind of political statement.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:07 am to RiverCityTider
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So a trained marksman couldn't miss if the target moved his head at the last second?
A trained marksman would target center of mass... not the head
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:07 am to auggie
Shooter was only 20 years old. Just out of curiosity does anyone know the legal age to own a rifle in Pennsylvania? I'm willing to bet it is either 18 or 21. Pretty hard ot train someone at that age without them going into the military if that is the case. Just going by the high school yearbook photos of him he doesn't exactly put off William Tell vibes.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:19 am to 88Wildcat
A lot of hunters in western Pa. and hunting families. Kids grow up shooting, just like in the South.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:41 am to RiverCityTider
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So a trained marksman couldn't miss if the target moved his head at the last second?
Exactly why you don't take headshots on game animals. Center mass can't move out of the way fast enough. Heads can.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:45 am to Sofaking2
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What concerns me more is the negligence (or on purpose) leaving that rooftop totally unguarded. I have listened to many experts in this area by now. Something isn’t right about leaving the closest rooftop open with a clear shot at the president.
Anyone who ever watched a movie or read a book knows better.
It's criminal negligence at best.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:46 am to AnotherRound
quote:you ought to see the European mount I did and how much time it takes to even have a chance at a deer like that. Plus, I had had several years of nothing to shoot other than meat (does).
Dumb
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:50 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Taking a headshot at 125 yards with 556 is amateurish as frick
I am more on the line of thinking that he was aiming center mass and missed that badly. We had active shooter training at work and the consultant said amateurs tend to miss high and right because they have the adrenaline rush and are not calmed down.
Trained shooters work heavily on this I am told.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:52 am to RiverCityTider
I’m still going to roll with the opinion that he was a huge amateur.
If you want Trump dead, you don’t take the head shot from that distance. You aim center mass.
If you want Trump dead, you don’t take the head shot from that distance. You aim center mass.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:56 am to Blutoismyname
It's completely unacceptable. Not that I have any faith in the government as far as public service goes but they typically atleast take care of themselves. With the technology and resources the government has that dude should have been trying to make that shot from a mile away if not farther. That's a bad look at our secret service. I assumed (and rightly so) at this point in time an American president's assanation or attempt would not be at a planned speech where he is literally a planted target.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:59 am to RiverCityTider
He rushed his shot but he’s also not well trained
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:59 am to Chicken
Food
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:00 am to RiverCityTider
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When you are under duress --- having been spotted and screamed at, knowing that you are about to die with certainty, and missing the target by an inch or two doesn't seem amateurish.
The Report is going to one of two ways... It was either a random nut, or an organized attempt.
I know where I am going to put my money..
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:01 am to RiverCityTider
Aim center mass
He was hoping for one shot one instant kill and had no partner like a true trained sniper has
Very amateurish
He was hoping for one shot one instant kill and had no partner like a true trained sniper has
Very amateurish
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:02 am to Themicah86
It was a few months ago that Kamala’s detail had a female agent go nuts,
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:04 am to RiverCityTider
With the info that is out he was 1 in. off of target killed. That is good at that range whoever you are whatever you are shooting. God bless miracles. 
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:07 am to Chicken
because he likes hunting deer and sometimes deer run ?
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