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re: Illegal alien jumps out of car in AR and shoots at deputy.

Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:01 am to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16321 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:01 am to
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You tell me. It’s your info


Well, let’s review a GAO report:

GAO report

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The first report found that criminal aliens, both legal and illegal, make up 27 percent of all federal prisoners. Yet non-citizens are only about nine percent of the nation’s adult population. Thus, judging by the numbers in federal prisons alone, non-citizens commit federal crimes at three times the rate of citizens.


Another GAO report

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The findings in the second report are even more disturbing. It reviewed the criminal histories of 55,322 aliens in federal or state prisons and local jails who “entered the country illegally.” Those illegal aliens were arrested 459,614 times, an average of 8.3 arrests per illegal alien, and committed almost 700,000 criminal offenses, an average of roughly 12.7 offenses per illegal alien.


2011 report from GAO

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The 2011 GAO report is more of the same. The criminal histories of 251,000 criminal aliens showed that they had committed close to three million criminal offenses. Sixty-eight percent of those in federal prison and 66 percent of those in state prisons were from Mexico. Their offenses ranged from homicide and kidnapping to drugs, rape, burglary, and larceny.

This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:08 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154748 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:01 am to
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the idea that illegals are especially dangero


There is only one problem with your bleed. Let's see if you can figure it out without using shareblue blabber. I doubt it.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:07 am to
You’re still making the same error. On purpose?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:09 am to
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SPRINGDALE -- A man accused of shooting at police officers during a car chase Sunday is being held in lieu of $500,000 bond.
Too bad for the illegal this happened in AR. In Harris County Tx he'd have been immediately released so he'd be out of custody before...
quote:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement placed a hold
No bond. Nothing. Just hurry up and leave before the feds figure out you're here. See ya!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:11 am to
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just like the math proves the idea that illegals are especially dangerous to be wrong.
Does the data account for the release policy for illegals in sanctuary cities?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16321 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:12 am to
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You’re still making the same error. On purpose?


Read that bolded line again. Realllly slow.

Violent crimes or no? Threat to safety or no?

I think the GAO reports, that are more reliable than the CATO institute, just smoked a pair of your claims hasn’t it?

I’ll just leave this here:

quote:

You’ve lost.


This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:18 am
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:17 am to
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ranged from
Pretty vague. My numbers were pretty specific, and what you’ve provided doesn’t refute them. Sorry, unless you’ve got something more specific, I’m taking the W.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18171 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:17 am to
Undocumented American selflessly donates extra bullets to local police department.

-msm
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16321 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:23 am to
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Pretty vague. My numbers were pretty specific, and what you’ve provided doesn’t refute them. Sorry, unless you’ve got something more specific, I’m taking the W.


Your numbers... from the CATO institute? Who used surveys vs official crime data used by the GAO?

Tell me. In these surveys used by CATO, is there any incentive for illegals to self report their crimes? You think that may skew the numbers?

Please tell me now you trust the CATO institute over the Govermental Accountability Office. Please please please please.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:26 am
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:25 am to
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Your numbers... from the CATO institute? Who used surveys vs official crime data used by the GAO?
Guess that puts your argument to bed, then.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16321 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:30 am to
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Guess that puts your argument to bed, then.


Say it.. say it. Put it on record. Say surveys are more reliable vs actual crime data. Say Cato is more reliable than the GAO. Cmon.

Cause that’s your position or you fold.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19138 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:49 am to
Your quote:
quote:

Illegal immigration is an issue, but isn’t a safety threat.

Yes it is. It's a threat to our public health as well as safety.

Here are some additional facts you may not have considered:

The TRUTH About Illegal Aliens & Infectious Diseases

All the more reason to be concerned about illegals entering our country.


This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 1:25 am
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 5:07 am to
Now y'all are just picking on the mentally challenged idiot.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 5:12 am to
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Officers return fire


The illegals plan to overcome soldiers



Get the machine guns out and let’s see who wants to charge automatic fire with tracing bullets.....


These MFs have to be stopped before the US goes the way of the Roman Empire...




Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83732 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:27 am to
Just saw this... how in the frick does the judge even issue a bond???

Aside from him being an illegal, there should be no bond for attempted murder on an officer
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16321 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:31 am to
For the folks who just skipped to the last page.. you should really read this thread. It is a case study on how leftists can cling to info from an unreliable source and repeat it ad nauseam.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:47 am to
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he folks who just skipped to the last page.. you should really read this thread. It is a case study on how leftists can cling to info from an unreliable source and repeat it ad nauseam.


And how he can just avoid uncomfortable arguments repeatedly
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 7:27 am
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29353 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:54 am to
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You know, they actually are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY.



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