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re: If you’re a casual observer of the news, you’re screwed.

Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:19 am to
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9229 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:19 am to
Good point. When you get right down to it, in the year 2026, the most abominable RINO is better than a Democrat. I’m not referring to Massie as a RINO, I’m just piggybacking off your statement. Also, I think every RINO should be primaried, I’m just saying let’s put things in proper perspective.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5049 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:19 am to
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This is admitting you have no personal policy positions and just want to be on a team, instead.

It makes your opinion on political issues worthless, because you have no actual personal beliefs.


Not true at all. Maybe I just support the president on his major policy issues and would like to see those things codified. I have my disagreements with him for sure, but they're minor in comparison to the big issues. And when you factor in the lunatic democrats who'd like to replace him, remove him from power, or kill him.... yeah, call me a fanboy of Trump. All day every day.

This is golden coming from you, btw.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:21 am to
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Not true at all. Maybe I just support the president on his major policy issues and would like to see those things codified.


This means you have no personal policy beliefs and you only support the president and whatever policy he's promoting at the time. It's proving my point

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And when you factor in the lunatic democrats

Why would I add more irrationality to the equation? This is an even more stupid way to develop personal policies.

This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 7:21 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:23 am to
Massie....like MTG, like AOC, like Bernie, like Boebert, like Hiawatha

...is a grifter.

They all wear the same coat.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:26 am to
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Massie....like MTG, like AOC, like Bernie, like Boebert, like Hiawatha

...is a grifter.


https://www.trumpstore.com
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5049 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:27 am to
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Some people are born to be useless


Useless for supporting locking down our borders and wanting a few million people deported?
Useless for questioning what the hell we're doing in NATO?
Useless for supporting attempting to bring manufacturing back to America (even if it causes temporary pain)?
Useless for favoring lower taxes?
Useless for supporting the 2A?
Useless for supporting free speech?
Useless for having a different opinion than you do on the war?


Useless for being deathly afraid of someone like AOC or Mamdani representing the opposition party, which I honestly do see as a legitimate threat to this country?



Spare me.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:29 am to
Prove me wrong, bucko.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:31 am to
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Prove me wrong, bucko.


I'm not trying to prove you wrong; maybe Massie IS a grifter. I don't know the guy.

All I'm doing is showing that grifting isn't your real problem with him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:34 am to
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Massie....like MTG, like AOC, like Bernie, like Boebert, like Hiawatha

...is a grifter.


How, exactly?

Try not to use referential or irrelevant points when answering.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:34 am to
Not even close, pal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:35 am to
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Prove me wrong, bucko.


You seem to be posting a lie, which makes disproving it impossible, as your position isn't supported by facts/reality.

Now, if you can articulate the basis for your position, then a proper response may be possible, depending on the honesty and factual basis therein.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5049 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:37 am to
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This means you have no personal policy beliefs and you only support the president and whatever policy he's promoting at the time. It's proving my point


No, it doesn't. My own beliefs happen to align with the president on the major issues. You think people just started believing we should lock down our border when Trump became president? Whether you accept it or not, it is indeed possible that we have a president who really does believe in the same things that at least half the country believes in. We can debate his methods of accomplishing his goals for sure, but that's not what this discussion is about.

On a related note, why do you rarely ever post YOUR own beliefs? Not your legal beliefs, I mean your internal, true beliefs.


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Why would I add more irrationality to the equation? This is an even more stupid way to develop personal policies.


Because that "irrationality" is a huge part of the equation. You see, in many ways you're right when you accuse some people of blindly supporting the president. I will NEVER support people like AOC, Mamdani, G Newsome, K Harris, etc. NEVER. Trump can indeed shoot man on fifth avenue and still get my vote if he is on the ballot running against one of those people. In fact, I'd support just about anyone, regardless of their background or other personal shortcomings, over those people. All I need is a confidence that the person opposes the people I mentioned and that's good enough for me. I'm honest enough to admit that.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:40 am to
You know....exactly. you're SFP, all seeing and all knowing.

Provide evidentiary data supporting each of those human packages of feces in their respective legislative roles in the esteemed houses of congress.

You cannot, because it doesn't exist.

I will guarantee that you will find, should you choose to do so, that each of those listed has increased their net worth astronomically.

Grifters, one and all....both parties.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:44 am to
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Provide evidentiary data supporting each of those human packages of feces in their respective legislative roles in the esteemed houses of congress.

You cannot, because it doesn't exist.

I will guarantee that you will find, should you choose to do so, that each of those listed has increased their net worth astronomically.


You do know Massie was already well off before he ran for Congress, right?

He built a successful company that became very valuable and, IIRC, sold it.

What about his reported net wealth now is out of line for what a normal person could have done with that money?
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 7:45 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5852 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:45 am to
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Also, I think every RINO should be primaried, I’m just saying let’s put things in proper perspective.

Almost the entire party then...
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11310 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:46 am to
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But for anyone who supports the president and believes he is trying to make some major changes for the better, then it's perfectly reasonable to expect the president's party to support him in his endeavors.


Trump campaigned on being the peace option, and no new wars.

Massie says it is up to Congress to declare war (and he is correct). Trump bombing Iran is no different than when Obama bombed Libya. The difference is many Democrats opposed Libya action, and when voted on in Congress ~70 Democrats voted against it. Yet Obama didn't call for their removal.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:48 am to
Do your research. All of those listed have billionaire "friends" with conflicting interests.

They take from each....like a succubus.

Truly surprised that more haven't met their "end".
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5852 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:48 am to
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Massie....like MTG, like AOC, like Bernie, like Boebert, like Hiawatha

...is a grifter.

They all wear the same coat


Half of these were well loved and well respected by the majority of this board until one man said something.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:50 am to
I've done the research, I suggest you do the same.

You will likely become as disillusioned as I have.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5852 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:57 am to
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You will likely become as disillusioned as I have

Who says I was ever under the illusion?
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