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Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:07 pm to jeff5891
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I've heard meth is easy to make, yet its still illegal...
You're equating a piece of plastic with a narcotic?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:08 pm to Centinel
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Yes.
quote:quote:There isn't. It's a knee-jerk appeal to emotion.
What's the reasoning of the current administration?
Pretty sure this administration says otherwise about whether or not you need "your definition" of reason to make something illegal
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:11 pm to BamaAtl
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Hundreds of thousands*
Roughly 500 people are killed with long guns per year. That not quite “hundreds of thousands”.
This is what i expect from you at this point.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:11 pm to jeff5891
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Pretty sure this administration says otherwise
The administration is wrong.
Banning bump stocks achieves absolutely nothing. One would hope you would agree that passing a law that doesn't actually achieve anything is probably not a good thing.
I mean unless you're one of those folks who is perfectly fine with banning things you don't particularly like.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:12 pm to civiltiger07
quote:Bingo.
This is what i expect from you at this point.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:12 pm to Centinel
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You're equating a piece of plastic
No he posted a picture with string tied to a gun. When did I say anything about plastic being home made?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:13 pm to jeff5891
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No he posted a picture with string tied to a gun. When did I say anything about plastic being home made?
Ah, so you're equating a piece of string with a narcotic.
Gotcha.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:15 pm to Centinel
quote:this is irrelevant to our argument. you stated that you need a reason to make something illegal. It appears they don't.
Banning bump stocks achieves absolutely nothing.
Though, they have actually stated a reason; you just disagree with it.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:19 pm to Centinel
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Ah, so you're equating a piece of string with a narcotic.
wrong again. im comparing the ability of modifying a semi automatic to get around the firing rate of a human with materials found in a house to the ability of making a narcotic in your own home.
The poster of that image seems to think that just bc something is easily available to rig at home, then it shouldn't be illegal or regulated. History of law says otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:21 pm to jeff5891
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you stated that you need a reason to make something illegal.
You do if you're being honest about your legal reasoning.
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It appears they don't.
See above. There was no legal reasoning. There was only appeal to emotion.
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Though, they have actually stated a reason; you just disagree with it.
Because their premise that banning bump stocks will keep the Las Vegas shooting from happening again is patently false.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:26 pm to jeff5891
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im comparing the ability of modifying a semi automatic to get around the firing rate of a human with materials found in a house to the ability of making a narcotic in your own home
This would make sense if you were talking about not only banning bump stocks, but semi-automatic rifles as a whole as well.
But you're not, so it doesn't.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:30 pm to Centinel
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Because their premise that banning bump stocks will keep the Las Vegas shooting from happening again is patently false.
Your statement is actually false. They don't think this will completely stop something like this from happening again. They never stated that.
sounds more like their reasoning is to limit the availability one has to modify a semi-automatic weapon in this way. Purchasing a premade modification is a hell of a lot easier than making one yourself
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:31 pm to KosmoCramer
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They should be regulated as a class III weapon.
100%
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:33 pm to Centinel
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This would make sense if you were talking about not only banning bump stocks, but semi-automatic rifles as a whole as well.
lol no. Do you know Why fully automatics weapons are regulated?
Does a bump stock make a semi-auto fire at a rate similar to a semi or a fully auto weapon?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:33 pm to jeff5891
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Your statement is actually false. They don't think this will completely stop something like this from happening again. They never stated that.
Was or was not the Las Vegas shooting the reason for banning bump stocks?
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sounds more like their reasoning is to limit the availability one has to modify a semi-automatic weapon in this way.
Sooo...to keep Las Vegas from happening again.
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Purchasing a premade modification is a hell of a lot easier than making one yourself
Now I know you don't actually have any experience with bump stocks or rapid-firing a semi-auto rifle.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:35 pm to jeff5891
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Does a bump stock make a semi-auto fire at a rate similar to a semi or a fully auto weapon?
That's not really the issue. This regulation leads to a slippery slope. It still functions as a semi auto.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:35 pm to jeff5891
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Does a bump stock make a semi-auto fire at a rate similar to a semi or a fully auto weapon?
What does this even mean? Are you saying there are semi-full-auto weapons out there?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:36 pm to GetCocky11
Woohoo! Gubment making more criminals... just what we need
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:42 pm to Centinel
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Was or was not the Las Vegas shooting the reason for banning bump stocks?
That's not what you argued. You said this:
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their premise that banning bump stocks will keep the Las Vegas shooting from happening again
No one ever said this. An event can lead to regulating something. That doesn't mean regulation was put in place to stop something "from happening again".
Its all about limiting events like this. Reducing percentages. And if the only reason for having a bump stock is "OMG its FUN", pretty sure this administration saw that limiting the occurrence of an event like this in the future was more important than your "fun".
But good news you still have the right to own a semi-auto.
quote:you really don't know. and you would be wrong to think that
Now I know you don't actually have any experience with bump stocks or rapid-firing a semi-auto rifle.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 12:43 pm
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