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re: If you possess a bump stock after March 2019, you will be breaking the law.

Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:14 pm to
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when you can make a pointless law
how is it pointless ?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:17 pm to
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You could also build a tank out of sheet metal.




...and I can 100% replicate the effectiveness of a bump stock with rubber bands.

Can you 100% replicate the effectiveness of a tank with sheet metal?



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:19 pm to
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how is it pointless ?


Because it does nothing to prevent or even mitigate what happened in Las Vegas.

Now back to my question:

What makes a firearm semi-automatic, and what makes it automatic?

Does a bump stock change those two different mechanics?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:32 pm to

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Because it does nothing to prevent or even mitigate


How does it not?


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Now back to my question


Not so fast chief.

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Do you know Why fully automatics weapons are regulated?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90771 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:34 pm to
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How does it not?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:34 pm to
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How does it not?


Because I can have 100% the same effect with rubber bands.

How many times do I have to explain this to you?

No, I have no idea why they're regulated. None. Zero.

Now that I've answered you pointless question:

What is the difference between a semi-auto firearm and automatic firearm?

Does a bump stock change the difference between the two?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138932 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:36 pm to
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How does it not?

You think banning but not confiscating mitigates the potential of someone killing people while using a bump stock?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:37 pm to
The NFA was, in large part, enacted as a response to organized crime, mobs.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:50 pm to
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Because I can have 100% the same effect with rubber bands.


And making this modification with rubber bands will be illegal

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The rule concludes that bump-fire stocks, "slide-fire" devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics all fall within the prohibition on machine guns by allowing a "shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger," and therefore, they are illegal under federal law.


Are you under the impression that we shouldn’t have laws/regulations just bc they are easy to circumvent?

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No, I have no idea why they’re regulated


Lol. This is why you are incapable of understanding this administrations reasoning. Figure it out, and then we can continue.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:50 pm to
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You could also build a tank out of sheet metal.


You are clearly retarded when it comes to technical understanding and basic engineering. Typical, that level of mathematics is well beyond you ability.


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I agree, it's simple logic you're ignoring here.


Only thing simple here is you child.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:52 pm to
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And making this modification with rubber bands will be illegal


no it won't. the paper even offers rubber bands and belt loops as an alternative.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:55 pm to
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And making this modification with rubber bands will be illegal


I'm sure the next guy who decides to shoot up a venue will take this in to consideration and be very careful not to break the law.

Like I said, pointless.

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Lol. This is why you are incapable of understanding this administrations reasoning.


You don't detect sarcasm very well do you?

Now answer my questions.

This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:57 pm to
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And making this modification with rubber bands will be illegal


According to who? What law regulates the act of bump-firing a semi-automatic rifle? You are certainly putting forth a lot of effort to prove yourself an imbecile here.


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Are you under the impression that we shouldn’t have laws/regulations just bc they are easy to circumvent?



Laws and regulations should be effective in their stated impact. Feel-good, do-nothing laws like this bump stock rule, are worthless. Intelligent, well-educated people umderstand this. You do not.


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This is why you are incapable of understanding this administrations reasoning. Figure it out, and then we can continue.


Typical response of someone who lacks the intelligence and honesty to support their argument.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Like I said, pointless
quote:

Are you under the impression that we shouldn’t have laws/regulations just bc they are easy to circumvent?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Are you under the impression that we shouldn’t have laws/regulations just bc they are easy to circumvent?



Making meth illegal makes it much harder to obtain meth as opposed to if it were legal.

Making bump stocks illegal has zero effect on firing a semi-auto rifle at a high cyclic rate.



Now answer my questions:

What is the difference between semi-auto and auto firearms?

What effect does a bump stock have on a semi-auto to change these differences?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:10 pm to
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Laws and regulations should be effective in their stated impact.

this is word vomit that doesn’t say anything

[quote]Feel-good, do-nothing laws like this bump stock rule, are worthless. Intelligent, well-educated people umderstand this. You do not.


K. This statement can just as easily be flipped around. So I guess it’s as pointless as this new regulation.


Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:19 pm to
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It makes it harder to obtain


Is it still hard to get high? I’m assuming meth should be legal bc it’s still easy to get high.

I’ve already answered. You just weren’t paying attention.

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bump-fire stocks, "slide-fire" devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics all fall within the prohibition on machine guns by allowing a "shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger,"


When this is all written out and in place, modifying with rubber bands and belts will be banned. As well as anything else that initiates a continuous firing cycle with this administrations definition of “a single trigger pull”.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90771 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:22 pm to
How the frick are you banning rubber bands,
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:24 pm to
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When this is all written out and in place, modifying with rubber bands and belts will be banned.


again this is false.

LINK

go to page 144, Alternative #3.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:24 pm to
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How the frick are you banning rubber bands,


Who said that?

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