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If video comes out with Floyd saying I can't breathe well before he was subdued
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:27 am
how does that impact the prosecution of Chauvin and the rest?
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:28 am to deathvalleytiger10
Considering who took over the Chauvin prosecution? Not much.
Ellison will turn this into a show trial and if/when he gets off, new riots will start.
Ellison will turn this into a show trial and if/when he gets off, new riots will start.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:29 am to deathvalleytiger10
It doesn’t.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:29 am to teke184
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Ellison will turn this into a show trial and if/when he gets off, new riots will start
You don't think he would do this purposely???? No not Ellison
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:32 am to deathvalleytiger10
why kneel on his neck when he's already complaining about breathing issues?
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:32 am to deathvalleytiger10
Turn into failure to act. Failure to render medical aid to a person in police custody.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:34 am to Choctaw
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why kneel on his neck when he's already complaining about breathing issues?
This was my first thought when I read the OP.
If a video comes out of Floyd saying he can't breath and they kneeled on his neck for a few minutes anyway, it's even more egregious.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:39 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:I'd presume that would guarantee a 2nd degree murder conviction. It would mean the guy kneeled on Floyd's neck for nearly 9mins during a medical emergency.
how does that impact the prosecution of Chauvin and the rest?
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:44 am to deathvalleytiger10
Didn't the report indicate he was saying he couldn't breath while standing up before he was taken to the ground?
Of course, police reports can probably be pencil whipped as easy as a weekday golf tournament scorecard.
Of course, police reports can probably be pencil whipped as easy as a weekday golf tournament scorecard.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:45 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:
how does that impact the prosecution of Chauvin and the rest?
There was no reason to do what that cop did, from what I could tell.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:45 am to deathvalleytiger10
IF there were a video of Floyd fighting the Police and trying to grab their guns, it would not matter at this point.....the die is cast.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:45 am to deathvalleytiger10
considering he was speaking, how was he not breathing?
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:51 am to deathvalleytiger10
It's been proven that prosecutors committed felonies and fabricated a witness in the trayvon case.
Jack shite has happened to them.
Jack shite has happened to them.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:56 am to oogabooga68
Video of such is certainly relevant to the discussion stemming from protests, whichever side one may argue those matters.....but as to the strictly legal aspects that are the subject of the criminal cases against the officers, that's mainly about "the 8 minutes". The prosecution's position as to whatever may have happened prior to having Floyd cuffed and face down to the ground will be that regardless of such, Floyd was then and thereafter fully restrained and under control during the 8 minutes, thus the legal conversation wholly turns to Chauvin's justification or not in keeping the knee to the neck during which time Floyd died.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:06 am to RuLSU
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If a video comes out of Floyd saying he can't breath and they kneeled on his neck for a few minutes anyway, it's even more egregious.
This actually could establish the intent to kill.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:07 am to i am dan
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Didn't the report indicate he was saying he couldn't breath while standing up before he was taken to the ground?
yes it did
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Of course, police reports can probably be pencil whipped as easy as a weekday golf tournament scorecard.
source is NOT a police report
it was from the probable cause report for charging Chauvin... which I believe comes from the DA's office
that was from the review of body cam footage
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:15 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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This actually could establish the intent to kill.
Most especially if it were coupled with evidence of some sort of prior animosity from Chauvin toward Floyd in relation to their past mutual employment at the bar/restaurant.
But as of now, the prosecution is going with "death occurred during the commission of another felony" as the basis of 2nd degree murder charge, just as is the case in the Arbery matter. Assault/battery being the felony in this particular matter. Basis for that felony allegation being that Chauvin was not legally justified in his application of bodily force once Floyd was cuffed, restrained and under control.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:20 am to deathvalleytiger10
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how does that impact the prosecution of Chauvin and the rest?
What people need to understand is Ellison is going to lose this case on purpose so there will be more riots. The Democrats feel they gain politically from the riots, which may well be true, and the fact people get hurt means nothing to them.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:24 am to rt3
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source is NOT a police report
it was from the probable cause report for charging Chauvin... which I believe comes from the DA's office
that was from the review of body cam footage
So, is that problem that it came from the DA's office after viewing the footage?
Not arguing, just asking because it seems that would be considered accurate info as well.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:24 am to FredBear
Fred, one thing to that end is that there's no way these cases make it to trial before November. The wheels of justice really do turn slowly, most especially in state courts. Federal's a bit more strictly structured in the time flow to trial, but heck these state trials could easily be in winter or even spring.
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