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re: If Tucker had such a problem with mainstream news outlets
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:32 pm to barry
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:32 pm to barry
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Like he professes in his Twitter video, then why did he work for them for 30 years? Why did he only leave Fox after getting fired? Seems awfully convenient he didn't have a problem with it until it stopped feeding him money and fame. Tucker, like all these news outlet hosts, doesn't care about the truth. They care about making money from mouth-breathing idiots. They will change whichever direction the wind blows so long as they stay relevant and rich.
Baw….you’re approaching 50k PT posts and this POS thread was the best you could puke out? Lol
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:34 pm to barry
Tucker spent nearly an hour every night calling out the hypocrisy in media.
You must’ve been one of the hundred or so people watching Cooper Anderson or Ray Maddow.
You must’ve been one of the hundred or so people watching Cooper Anderson or Ray Maddow.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:39 pm to barry
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Seems awfully convenient he didn't have a problem with it until it stopped feeding him money and fame.
They never stopped feeding him money.
If you knew anything about MSM, you'd know that many people that started when HE did still had reason to believe there was at least a modicum of intellectual honesty with regards to having the media show both sides of the story or get to the bottom of truth. Remember ever hearing the phrase "Journalism is dead." Well, that's because it USED to be alive on some levels. But if you've paid any attention to his many regrets, he has actually discussed feeling awful that he helped these outlets even if it was unwittingly, in terms of bolstering their angles. The second he wasn't willing to say what they wanted him to, they cut him. There's a reason this is such a GIGANTIC story. Nevermind the Dominion connection, which is a HIGH crime.
Those that control the narrative have gotten bolder and bolder, and now are in an all out "fk you" phase because they -can- be. We are in an all out war for the first amendment.
Consider the RAMPANT censorship you see across every single media platform. It's not just pervasive, it HAD a monopoly until Elon acquired Twitter.
Barry, if you care about the principles of free speech and not championing the "legality" of what people do with their platforms, you should be -grossly- concerned about the state of our country. More than you can imagine is riding on Tucker being ALLOWED a platform right now. You have to understand... they fired him because he got too powerful to control, and he didn't want to comply with their requests for saying "the truth" how they want him to say it.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:44 pm to David_DJS
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Isn't the issue many have with corporate media that it doesn't care about making money? Clearly, Fox didn't fire Tucker to make more money, and CNN (and others) aren't irrationally liberal and persistently inaccurate to make more money.
All of that can be explained as making moves to increase future value. Although, to be fair, Fox is privately held, I believe.
But if you believe that shareholders aren't looking to increase their share value, I don't know what to tell you. Indeed, shareholders can sue the CEO if they believe he's not upholding his fiduciary duties.
I'm not sure why anyone would think media corporations are exempt from these rules.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:47 pm to rhar61
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I don't understand how anyone can look at how cnn is run or what fox has been doing lately and think their only concern is "money".
If all they cared about was money they would not be a problem.
Because if all someone cares about is money, that can't possibly be problematic?
You wouldn't know if the media was liberal if you didn't consume it. That you consume it justifies their market approach.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:51 pm to barry
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Like he professes in his Twitter video, then why did he work for them for 30 years?
Maybe it got progressively worse and truth telling got harder.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:52 pm to barry
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If Tucker had such a problem with mainstream news outlets
Like he professes in his Twitter video, then why did he work for them for 30 years? Why did he only leave Fox after getting fired?
Let me show you the list of what I'd do for $20m a year, bro.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:53 pm to barry
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Like he professes in his Twitter video, then why did he work for them for 30 years? Why did he only leave Fox after getting fired?
Seems awfully convenient he didn't have a problem with it until it stopped feeding him money and fame. Tucker, like all these news outlet hosts, doesn't care about the truth. They care about making money from mouth-breathing idiots. They will change whichever direction the wind blows so long as they stay relevant and rich.
Right before he was fired he addressed this in the Full Send Podcast. Guess you kinda fricked up posting this thread without doing any actual research. Sad.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:55 pm to barry
The man was getting paid AND had quite a range of topics that were unrestrained. The stuff he talked about on Fox would have never gotten spoken on CNN or MSNBC.
Once he exposed the Jan 6 video, he had to go.
Once he exposed the Jan 6 video, he had to go.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:56 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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All of that can be explained as making moves to increase future value. Although, to be fair, Fox is privately held, I believe.
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I'm not sure why anyone would think media corporations are exempt from these rules.
First, the rules have changed. I'm intimately familiar with two large public companies that have purposefully increased costs for social justice reasons (related to relocating highly efficient operations to "disadvantaged communities" and turning a blind eye to efficiency, safety, and financial controls). This is not uncommon today.
Second, a question - do you think it's the free market in play that has 90% of corporate media liberally biased? That's simply supply meeting demand?
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:05 pm to David_DJS
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90% of corporate media liberally biased? That's simply supply meeting demand?
If people are buying bias, I don't blame anyone else for selling it. There are actually people who watch liberal media just to enrage themselves - and vice versa. People make all sorts of poor decisions in the marketplace that corporations set themselves up to take advantage of.
But I'm still trying to figure out a business model that involves selling something that no one wants just to make a political point. How would you stay in business?
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:07 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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If people are buying bias, I don't blame anyone else for selling it.
I do, especially when the truth would obviously sell more.
There's an agenda that's far more profitable than just their current and advertisers offer them.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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But I'm still trying to figure out a business model that involves selling something that no one wants just to make a political point. How would you stay in business?
Did I suggest there's no demand for liberally-biased news?
I'm asking whether you believe that large/corporate media being 90% liberal reflects demand, and your answer is a lot of conservatives demand liberal media to make themselves mad. Okay.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:12 pm to barry
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Like he professes in his Twitter video, then why did he work for them for 30 years?
He created nothing but headache for them while taking their money.
Go back to the football forum and deep throat your bud light bottle you idiot
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:23 pm to m2pro
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I do, especially when the truth would obviously sell more.
There's an agenda that's far more profitable than just their current and advertisers offer them.
They're in the business, you're not. I'm going to go ahead and assume they know what they're doing. Especially since, you know, they've been so successful at it for so long, and you haven't been.
It's a main reason I got rid of cable TV, I didn't want to continue to support that shite. A lot of other people who disagree with it, and don't watch it, still end up paying for it.
Obviously they're doing something right.
Personally, I don't think the truth would really sell much at all - once the novelty wore off.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:28 pm to David_DJS
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large/corporate media being 90% liberal reflects demand
Remember when Murdoch started Fox? He saw an unmet market demand for conservative news, and filled it with his conservative product. His market share is more than 10%.
But if there's much demand for conservative media beyond Fox, where are the Murdochs to come along and fill the unmet demand? Is there some vast left-wing conspiracy that's keeping conservatives from entering the market with a bunch of truth?
Again, I just don't think truth is sensational enough to get people's attention and sell.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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they know what they're doing.
I never contended they didn't. I just said I blame them.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Personally, I don't think the truth would really sell much at all - once the novelty wore off.
You don't think knowing the truth about JFK would sell? How about 9/11? How about covid origin? How about every politician that is blackmailed and/or bought by our enemies?
There is an ENDLESS trove of real/brutal reporting that would sell for an aeon at this point.
They don't NOT tell the truth because it's boring. They don't tell the whole truth because they want to remain in power and control us.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 4:08 pm to m2pro
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You don't think knowing the truth about JFK would sell? How about 9/11? How about covid origin? How about every politician that is blackmailed and/or bought by our enemies?
Not really.
Mostly because half the people wouldn't believe it and just make up bizarre conspiracy theories to explain how all that truth is really just more lies.
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They don't NOT tell the truth because it's boring. They don't tell the whole truth because they want to remain in power and control us.
See? Just like that.
The cold, brutal fact is that you don't ever know when they're telling the truth now or not. They probably tell the truth more than they don't, but people refuse to believe truth when it doesn't confirm their biases, and believe lies when they do.
Stop looking for truth, you won't believe it even when you do find it. Look instead for perspective and consider the source.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 4:10 pm to m2pro
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I never contended they didn't.
You kind of did when you said the truth would sell more.
How do you even know that?
How would you even know what the truth was?
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