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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:23 pm to tigerskin
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All that construction you deal with, y'all don't
have any illegals? Just curious
I probably just sit here and remain silent on this one, but I can't.
In all honesty, the reason construction is relatively inexpensive is because of our labor pool. Truly skilled trades like electricians and plumbers don't have too many illegals on their crews in commercial construction, but those of us in drywall and metal framing, or concrete, have crews that are almost 100% Hispanic, and I have a sneaking suspicion that most of them don't have a valid green card or work permit. E-verify is pretty much a joke since damned near everyone who wants to can exploit any one of the innumerable loop-holes that exist.
I would dearly love to know without any doubt that every single individual on any crew that my company dispatches to a job is legal and in full compliance, but that's simply not the case. Even better would be to field a crew that consists of good ole American boys rather than the Hispanics, but in all honesty, there aren't a whole hell of a lot of red-blooded gringos lining up to take these positions. Our starting wage is $22.50/hr for framers and hangers and it goes up to $25.00 within six months if the employee is competent. Lead men are making $30.00/hr and foremen are at $35.00/hr. (That's not exactly peanuts for someone who cuts and places metal studs, hangs sheetrock, or installs acoustic ceilings. It doesn't require a whole hell of a lot of super-high intellect to perform but it's demanding enough that we can't hire trained monkeys.)
The truth of the matter is that the only time we see a majority of white or black applicants for an opening is when we advertise an opening for a foreman, superintendent, or project manager. There simply are not enough gringos to actually perform the work at the current rate of new projects being bid and contracts awarded, and the first company to raise prices to accommodate the payroll required to entice American citizens into this trade will be without work for a decent amount of time because the bids will be tossed out at first glance by the owners and GCs because they look ludicrously high.
We're quietly putting out the word that we are specifically looking for employees who have bona fide legal credentials to try to get ahead of the curve and avoid the abyss that is certainly going to appear for a lot of subcontractors. Undoubtedly those employees that can meet all the legal qualifications to hold a work permit (and of course those who are US citizens) will be able to command a higher wage. I don't have a problem with that at all, but the increase in the cost of construction will undoubtedly have an effect that will cause a substantial percentage of construction projects that are currently scheduled or are in the bid stages to be postponed until things even out or even canceled entirely.
In time, I believe this will all work out, but there are going to be some long and painful situations to overcome first.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:28 pm to stout
If we weren’t spending billions on illegals and their assistance we might have been able to speed up the process for the immigrants entering legally. These people that refuse to leave aren’t much different than an unruly teenager. Just digging their heels in and daring the US to act.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:33 pm to AU86
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So did it work that away when Reagan did it?
You are comparing time frames with little relevance to each other (80s vs. 2020s)
Trump did better with Latinos in CA than Reagan (80, 84) and Bush (88) and Reagan/Bush won CA those years.
1992 was when CA went blue and you can thank Ross Perot for that, it was nothing to do with Hispanics.
This is where the blue run started.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:33 pm to stout
Trump ain’t folding on amnesty. You people are just a bunch of over reacting dumbasses.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:34 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:36 pm to DarthRebel
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Solidify the borders, but do not ignore the long game. Hispanics are very good conservative people.
Incorrect. The Hispanics that are legal and voted for Trump are not the same ones that most recently came across the border. Most of them are looking for government assistance and will not be voting Republican not matter what Trump does. They will vote for the party that is promising them free shite
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:38 pm to JackieTreehorn
Wasn't Bush Sr really running things under Reagan anyway?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:39 pm to stout
If Trump offers "amnesty," he will most likely increase Republican voter roles.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:40 pm to stout
Once they realized how many Republicans employed illegals it made it harder to hold the line.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:42 pm to stout
He’s going to give it to farm workers
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:53 pm to stout
Let's wait and see what exactly Trump does before we start bitching and talking about "cooked forever ".
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:53 pm to FLTech
Farm workers aaaand hotel staff
Taco gotta have someone to clean his hotels and cut his grass
Come on guys… you can not defend this one..
Taco gotta have someone to clean his hotels and cut his grass
Come on guys… you can not defend this one..
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:57 pm to stout
I'm watching the Bolling Show on RAV this afternoon and Bolling reported between Clinton, Bush and Obama over 15 million illegal interlopers were deported.......our man OMB and our baw Homan better get their deporting asses in gear. 
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:01 pm to Bass Tiger
Taco Trump
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:02 pm to stout
has nothing to do with Trump. the country has long been done. cant murder millions of fetuses without annihilation eventually.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:18 pm to DarthRebel
quote:betting 0% white for next election if this 100% deportation does not happen. the bread crumbs taco tremble will fore sack the long time tax payer for the short time voter is evident that osha cards being handed out like candy !
White men were 60% for Trump
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:34 pm to stout
Trump is your prototypical Fox News Boomer type
Sees all the problems. But have no idea or no fortitude to actually fix the problem and see them through. Can’t see beyond next days market forecast
Sees all the problems. But have no idea or no fortitude to actually fix the problem and see them through. Can’t see beyond next days market forecast
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:38 pm to AU86
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So did it work that away when Reagan did it? How many legal Hispanics would it alienate that are opposed to these illegals?
Democrats were different then. Now they are Godless socialists. Quite unlike the tendencies of those from south of the border.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:14 pm to John Barron
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Incorrect. The Hispanics that are legal and voted for Trump are not the same ones that most recently came across the border. Most of them are looking for government assistance and will not be voting Republican not matter what Trump does. They will vote for the party that is promising them free shite
Show your work?
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