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re: If Trump declares war on Venezuela tonight, is he breaking a campaign promise?

Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52283 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

If overthrowing South American thugs means I can enjoy going to major cities again without fent zombies everywhere, then it's a small campaign promise I can let slide.
fentanyl comes from Mexico not Venezuela
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37576 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:07 pm to
Unless he's trying to take out ports in Mexico, you'll still be able to get your fentanyl.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10853 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:09 pm to
The definition of war changed 9/12/2001

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37576 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:11 pm to
It's different when Trump does it.

Posted by rtr72
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
826 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:42 pm to
I’ll give you a pass and a plane ticket to move to EU
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4110 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:46 pm to
Yes
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39931 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:51 pm to
You can't predict the volition of Campaign promises. If Russia invaded Alaska tomorrow would " No New Wars " still apply?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31530 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Or does he get a pass because the fentanyl crisis is existential?



This keeps being said like the fent comes from Venezuela
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23179 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:58 pm to
POTUS Trump immediately after the oath of office began gathering info on everything south of the border related to drugs. Of course, they already knew about the 2020 election issue emanating from Venezuela.

It will be glorious. MSM will be furious due to its success.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25318 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:00 pm to
It will not be a war.....
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59469 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:07 pm to
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and the same trump jock sniffers will consider it a brilliant decision


He isn’t declaring war. How gullible are you to keep falling for fake news?
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3384 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:08 pm to
No, he didn't.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1861 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:10 pm to
Last I checked, presidents can not declare war.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20283 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:43 pm to
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Not until Jan 20, 2025. Then someone flipped a switch.


What war has happened since that day?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 6:53 pm to
Jan 20, 2025. Then someone flipped a "warhawk"] switch.

quote:

What war has happened since that day?


In case you aren't paying attention, here's a reminder of what the "peace President's" 2025 has looked like:

1) Trump promised to end the Ukraine War. He not only did NOT end it, breaking his campaign promise, he's authorized sending tens of billions of dollars in additional American aid and war materiel; AND also authorized military covert ops against Russia.

2) The US bombed the hell out of Iraq

3) The US participated in the demolition of Gaza.

4) Conducted military strikes against Somalia

5) Conducted military strikes against Yemen

6) Threatened military action in Nigeria

7) Sent troops into the Panama Canal to occupy it

8) Started a de facto war on Venezuela

9) Threatened Columbia with possible military operations

10) Bandied about a loose plan and action to possibly occupy and take control of Greenland

All told that's NINE sovereign nations feeling the brunt of US military aggression or threats just since January 20.

Some supporters will no doubt justify every single instance of US threat or strikes, but ALL of the above actions are indeed "warhawk" actions and form of terrorism. We NEVER saw this this "switch flipped" during Trump 1.0.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Last I checked, presidents can not declare war.


No.

But they can create the grounds for an eventual war or light the fuse if they want.

The "War Powers Resolution" requires a president to notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing US armed forces into hostilities. It generally prohibits combat beyond 60 days without either a declaration of war or specific statutory authorization (according to Congress.gov ).
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10689 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Sassafrasology


So what do you think?

Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20283 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

In case you aren't paying attention, here's a reminder of what the "peace President's" 2025 has looked like: 1) Trump promised to end the Ukraine War. He not only did NOT end it, breaking his campaign promise, he's authorized sending tens of billions of dollars in additional American aid and war materiel; AND also authorized military covert ops against Russia. 2) The US bombed the hell out of Iraq 3) The US participated in the demolition of Gaza. 4) Conducted military strikes against Somalia 5) Conducted military strikes against Yemen 6) Threatened military action in Nigeria 7) Sent troops into the Panama Canal to occupy it 8) Started a de facto war on Venezuela 9) Threatened Columbia with possible military operations 10) Bandied about a loose plan and action to possibly occupy and take control of Greenland All told that's NINE sovereign nations feeling the brunt of US military aggression or threats just since January 20. Some supporters will no doubt justify every single instance of US threat or strikes, but ALL of the above actions are indeed "warhawk" actions and form of terrorism. We NEVER saw this this "switch flipped" during Trump 1.0.


Like I said, what war? Strikes and operations go on 365 days a year under any President. Those are not wars.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Like I said, what war? Strikes and operations go on 365 days a year under any President. Those are not wars.


Strike and ops 365 days a year don't mean they are justified either. Who the hell do those who run these Imperial US military op think they are working for?

We can play semantics all day, but when people are being killed in hot military operations, armadas have sailed off coasts, life-blood trade is embargoed, national trade is strangled, interrupted, and one military is boarding foreign ship like pirates, IT. IS. WAR. By any other name.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1622 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:37 pm to
Trump can't declare war, dumbass.
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