re: If trump and musk cut social security

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Hopefully they cut it to people that have never paid in a dime and increase it to those that have worked and paid in all their adult lives.

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You cannot collect SSI if you never paid SS taxes.

Now the disability component is different.

You won't get an increase above COLA as that is not how the program was designed.

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Wrong.They are removing the fraud out of social security which helps with its being solvent longer

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You replied to a comment having nothing to do with the solvency of SS.

The comment was about our federal deficit-debt-interest issue.

I am sure $ have been pulled from SS for other things.

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That has nothing to do with a deficit. That has to do with debt.

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Does the interest on that war money not play a role in deficits YoY.

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Then we are doomed b

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dude, just shut the frick up you ignorant pos.

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Mindlessly whining about what cannot be done wastes electrons.

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I'm not the one saying what cannot be done, FWIW.

It's the people who don't support or understand why we need to cut SS/Medicare who are the ones whining in this manner.

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Tell us what they should do.

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We're going to have to make real cuts to the following:

Medicare
Social Security
Medicaid
The military

We would need to change the laws to make non-discretionary/entitlement spending discretionary and merge their tax scheme into the general fund (as right now it's allocated specifically only to those programs).

This is going to tank the economy and shrink tax receipts at first, as our economy relies heavily on public spending. The fear is that this may create a death spiral, as decreased GDP means decreased tax receipts, which means it's a dog chasing its tail ultimately. I just hope that we're not past the rubicon in that respect, or else mass suicide and accepting we're about to go back to 1600s living is the reality.

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dude, just shut the frick up you ignorant pos.

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I notice you didn't respond when the numbers were posted. I'll let you look at it again

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This deficit is larger today because of the higher interest payments.

Cut all non-defense discretionary spending and save 0.92T

Slash the military by half and you save 0.4T

Add in the $236B in waste (which give a double benefit to the reduction as it accounts for lots of waste in the non-discretionary and half military budgets)

Still running a deficit

Spoiler: we aren't cutting non-military spending to $0 and cutting the military budget anywhere close to 50%.

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Tell us how to create a budget surplus (to start working on the debt-interest) without cutting SS-Medicare. The numbers are in front of you.

I’m with you, been paying into it that long as well. There needs to be some sort of transition. They’ve gone so far down the rabbit hole with SS, I don’t know how you do it and not wipe a group of people out. But allowing the government to take our money off the top each week and then they just burn through it, can’t continue to happen.

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But allowing the government to take our money off the top each week and then they just burn through it, can’t continue to happen.

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Again. Same situation with USAID, another federal program your tax dollars went to fund. I did not see these arguments in response to cutting USAID.

This is a major problem people have with SS is that they don't see it for what it actually is: a typical tax-spend federal program, where the money taken from you in tax was redistributed elsewhere.