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re: If trump and musk cut social security

Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:11 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20915 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:11 am to
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No. I'm saying we have to cut SS/Medicare outlays and maintaining SS/Medicare tax receipts, along with lots of other spending cuts
How do you eat an elephant?

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That is an outright lie. I'm saying we need to cut more than just that
By bitching about every report of fraud being identified and removed. Yeah, you are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:11 am to
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honestly can't believe people still respond to you. Clearly an activist. Not a good one either. You have SOME fooled though...but my guess is that more and more just skip right over your tired bs.

I have posted the actual numbers multiple times.

Where do you think we can cut other than SS/Medicare to balance the budget?
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:12 am to
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Not gonna happen. In reality a lot of Americans who have paid into the Social Security system for 40-50 years will never see the payout they should have.


when it was enacted, it should have gone into an individual account that can't be touched until a certain age, etc. You should have been allowed to manage it if you wanted to, or allow someone else to manage it. Counting in employee matching, I would have well over $2M right now, and probably closer to $3m. I'll never see anywhere close to that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:12 am to
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You recommend cutting SS then you'll cry about "Trump taking the elderly's SS"

No. I've criticized Trump for his policy planks on "protecting" SS/ Medicare for some time.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:14 am to
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you tumpies, sure are proud of your leader . First you starve children, yeah, you starve children. Crying for sleep, so they can wake up crying, for food.


I don’t see American children starving. Quite the opposite, obesity is a major issue.
Where do you see starving American children? The taxpayer provides free breakfast, lunch, after school meals, summer meals, regular food support, and in some cases weekend meals.

So much aid, in fact, that some jackass posted here a few months ago that he/his family was getting free food aid, and he didn’t even need it. He just accepted it because it was free.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:15 am to
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By bitching about every report of fraud being identified and removed.

Another lie

I've long maintained the problem with celebrating crumbs reported as DOGE-adjacent was specifically that it was a distraction from having the real discussion about our deficit. You're proving my point in real time.

The largest discovery allegedly from DOGE is from a report released about a year ago by the regular GAO. And in my napkin math earlier, I incorporated those numbers.

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This deficit is larger today because of the higher interest payments.

Cut all non-defense discretionary spending and save 0.92T

Slash the military by half and you save 0.4T

Add in the $236B in waste (which give a double benefit to the reduction as it accounts for lots of waste in the non-discretionary and half military budgets)

Still running a deficit

Spoiler: we aren't cutting non-military spending to $0 and cutting the military budget anywhere close to 50%.


I bolded it for you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299017 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:18 am to
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yep, you sure are


Do you have a thought on the subject? Or is this just another flippant remark by a pussy?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299017 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:20 am to
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No. I've criticized Trump for his policy planks on "protecting" SS/ Medicare for some time.


10 years ago these dipshits would agree with you. Now since the Donald has this issue in limbo, they'll attack any stance based on the premise its simply an attack on their King.

They have changed. Their stances have shifted simply due to allegiance to a Huckster.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 8:21 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:23 am to
It's not just because of Trump

10 years ago, they were 10 more years away from getting SS
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23984 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:24 am to
Looks like SS will need more tax revenue, a higher age of retirement and means testing. Who knows what and the hell is going on in Medicare payouts? In the deepest darkest recessions of the past two decades, I always saw bigger and nicer hospitals and clinics being built.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299017 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:24 am to
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Slashing government departments is a drop in the bucket.


There is that too. I'm like 4 years away myself and agree it needs to be reformed badly.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53712 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:27 am to
Muh gubment check
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9764 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:28 am to
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bless your welfare drawing arse.

I hope he comes after your welfare.


Broke arse MAGA projecting again like always. lmao.

I paid more in taxes than you earned last year, janny.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9764 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:29 am to
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They have changed. Their stances have shifted simply due to allegiance to a Huckster.


Yep. This board is now actively and enthusiastically cheering on a wanna be dictator and kind (in his own mind only). It is disgusting.

Good work, Roger.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90538 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:30 am to
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I paid more in taxes than you earned last year, janny.

Flex bitch flex!
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9764 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:31 am to
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Jbird


Being a reply guy now? lmao. Sad!
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90538 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:32 am to
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Being a reply guy now?
Message boards are hard to understand big tax boi.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9764 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:33 am to
You replied in 2 minutes like you have notifications on or something.
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2434 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:33 am to
Hopefully they cut it to people that have never paid in a dime and increase it to those that have worked and paid in all their adult lives.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6266 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:33 am to
It's.
The opposite numbnuts. They are fighting to keep social security solvent
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