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re: If the Deep State stole the election from Trump (and us) in 2020, why didn't they in 2024?

Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:22 pm to
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So?


It hurts the "oversight changed things in 2024" argument.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3628 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:23 pm to
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Telling you what happened is a pivot? Sounds like your famous “strawman” argument to me, but what does I know, right?


Laura Trump and Elon were talking about it on tv every day but our resident
geniuses can’t be bothered to look it up
then deny it when it’s put in their face.

It is hilarious
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:23 pm to
Too many eyes watching
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:23 pm to
It doesn’t, but ok?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:24 pm to
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You would think the political junkies on this board that dominate every conversation would have already reviewed all of this information.


It’s really easy to find.


For the same reasons that none of the legal challenges to 2020 were successful, I don't see how legal action in 2024 would make much of a difference.

Other than getting orders to keep open certain polling places open (Bucks County, PA?), I don't know of any legal actions taken by RNC in 2024.

Personally, I thought the power of the Deep State was in the voting machines, which are beyond poll watchers. Again, maybe it was the THREAT of increased scrutiny. I don't recall any great poll watcher victories for the Republicans.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 6:25 pm
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:24 pm to
Trump was asked this very question, his response "too big to rig."
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:24 pm to
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This just says the Democrats kept their votes in proportion to population increase, which means 2020 wouldn't be inflated.


No, this shows that part of the corruption was negated. Harvesting, mail in ballots, etc was still a major issue but the machines were negated.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466543 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:25 pm to
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It doesn’t, but ok?


If they stopped all the fraud, how in the frick did Kamala do better than Biden?

Or was the fraud in 2020 insignificant?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:26 pm to
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I think they were under a much bigger microscope last year.

This plus 2020 was the Covid year. Lots of mail in frickery and ballot harvesting going on
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:27 pm to
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the machines were negated.


This is the part that interests me most. If true, that gives me more confidence in midterms.
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
301 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:29 pm to
Any day now the Trump admin is going to release the avalanche of evidence he claims to have and start prosecuting people over it. Yup, any day now.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:30 pm to
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You should watch the PBD Podcast episode with Lara Trump.


Thanks. I will look for it.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5612 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:32 pm to
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This is the part that interests me most. If true, that gives me more confidence in midterms.


It does me too. The problem is republicans suck for showing up for elections in mid terms, state elections, local elections on years that don’t include the presidency. It baffles me.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:32 pm to
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If the Deep State stole the election from Trump (and us) in 2020, why didn't they in 2024? I think the 2020 election WAS stolen, through programmable voting machines and mail in frickery. So, what happened in 2024?
Trump lost in 2020 because he was immensely unpopular.

He won in 2024 for the same reason that he won in 2016 ... the alternative was immensely worse.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:35 pm to
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First time. Just get in touch with the Louisiana GOP. They'll get you set up.


Thanks! Super dumb question. Do you have to live in the precinct where you poll watch? I live in a safely red area?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5612 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:40 pm to
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If they stopped all the fraud, how in the frick did Kamala do better than Biden?


Who said they stopped all the fraud? They stopped some of it and it was enough.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:42 pm to
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Team Trump was way more prepared and headed them off several times.


Thanks, I have just never seen any details on HOW they headed anything off other than "they had an army...." What did they catch Dems attempting to do?
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3628 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:44 pm to
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Trump lost in 2020 because he was immensely unpopular.


Completely wrong as per usual.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43138 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:46 pm to
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Thanks! Super dumb question. Do you have to live in the precinct where you poll watch? I live in a safely red area?


Normally they put you where you live or pretty close.

TTTT you don't want to be in some ghetto watching the polls and then have to act if something happens.

Bottom line is; Louisiana doesn't frick around. You have to sign in, present ID, they have people checking everything.

But all in all it was a fun time and my boss let me off work
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Bottom line is; Louisiana doesn't frick around. You have to sign in, present ID, they have people checking everything.


Thanks. Good to hear.
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