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re: If local request unnecessary, why didn't Trump deploy National Guard earlier on J6?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:25 pm to VOR
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:25 pm to VOR
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Because Trump was enjoying the fun from the Oval Office.He wanted his brown shirts to carry on.
It’s crazy you say this with what’s happening right now in California.
You need help.
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:27 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If President Trump thought Mayor Bowser had a right of refusal (turns out she didn't), why didn't he think Governor Newsome had a right of refusal?
You get riled up over topics you don’t understand.
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The Insurrection Act allows the President to call upon the militia of other states to help a state in need, or to deploy the armed forces if the President deems it necessary to suppress rebellion or enforce laws when ordinary law enforcement is insufficient.
J6 is not this. They let people into the damn building to just walk around.
If the capitol police didn’t think they could handle a rowdy crowd, they shouldn’t have started firing on them. This is all on video.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:34 pm to Jack Carter
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Im 100% certain this will go right over your head. Thats how miraculously retarded you are.
The 2020 riots are good examples also. At the time, Trump said he had to wait for the respective governors to ask. When asked today what the difference was with Newsom now, Trump answered "because Newsom is an incompetent governor." How's that for a legal distinction?
By the way, frick you. No one answered the question about why Trump was under the mistaken impression that he had to wait for a request from the Mayor and/or the Speaker to deploy the DC National Guard on J6.
Best answer I got was that Trump learned not to trust Democrats...and didn't wait for Newsom.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:39 pm to dgnx6
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J6 is not this. They let people into the damn building to just walk around.
If the capitol police didn’t think they could handle a rowdy crowd, they shouldn’t have started firing on them. This is all on video.
I agree with all this. I think Pelosi sandbagged Trump by implying she had the situation under control. I was looking for an explanation about why Trump thought he should rely on Pelosi's good faith or judgment. The President clearly thought the National Guard would have killed the J6 psy-op.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:43 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:yes, we did. Admittedly with a lot of noise in there.
By the way, frick you. No one answered the question about why Trump was under the mistaken impression that he had to wait for a request from the Mayor and/or the Speaker to deploy the DC National Guard on J6.
The answer to that specific question is because there is no 'governor' to either get a request from or override with an emergency declaration of some type.
The 'governor' is the Speaker of the House, up until about 5pm on Jan 5th was Nancy Pelosi. On Jan 6th it was McCarthy.
The fact that it was a federal district and not a state changes the request route IF an emergency is not declared. The day before, the 5th, when Trump wanted the guard on standby there was no emergency to declare for and therefore fell to the governor, Nancy Pelosi.
On Jan 6th he could have declared an emergency and acted (with the military refusing to obey). But that is not the question you asked.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:58 pm to I20goon
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yes, we did. Admittedly with a lot of noise in there.
The answer to that specific question is because there is no 'governor' to either get a request from or override with an emergency declaration of some type.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. The President didn’t need input from anyone else however: he is the Commander-in-Chief of the DC National Guard by statute.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:00 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Nancy didn't honor his request
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:01 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Maybe it had something to do with preemptive measures versus reacting to an all out fricking street war happening in real time?
Use your head
Use your head
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:01 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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IvoryBillMatt
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I'm a child groomer
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:02 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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What am I missing
Everything. Mostly the fact that DC has its own rules. Start there. Then stop listening to your sociology 4410 professor. Maybe try STEM and you could possibly learn to think for yourself?
All I got.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 11:50 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:only if federalized. In a state it is the governor who is CiC up until that point.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. The President didn’t need input from anyone else however: he is the Commander-in-Chief of the DC National Guard by statute.
In DC it is the SoH until federalized.
There are complications when there is crossover between those two co-equal branches vs. Pres & Gov. Those complications are minor, but in that environment and when on the same day there is a personnel change in the SoH AND change in party those complications are amplified.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:18 am to I20goon
Thanks
Posted on 6/10/25 at 3:10 am to 4cubbies
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Emotions have been running extremely high around here for quite some time. Unfortunately, you will not get many (if any) serious responses to your question.
They’re an unserious, illogical voter base, the problem is republicans have figured that out. And they also figured out that if you find them a common enemy, that they’ll rally against that foe even if they’re getting robbed blind
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:08 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The 2020 riots are good examples also.
No it's the example you were too stupid to use. You're a fricking idiot
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