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re: If homosexuals are “born that way”
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:03 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:03 am to Robin Masters
They do have some people are born twisted with their wires crossed. They can't help it
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Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:10 am to NC_Tigah
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Before you dig deeper, you don't know enough about genetics to go there.
My uncle is schizophrenic. I’m an addict. There is 100% no gene that science has found that applies to either. Nor is there for any personality disorder. Feel free to research since it doesn’t seem like you have…
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:12 am to the808bass
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But if it’s not directly corresponding to genetics, then homosexuals aren’t “born that way.”
Maybe we don’t disagree. I’m taking this as it being a choice or not. It’s not. I am surprised that so many people truly do believe that a naturally straight male would swear off women and choose dicks instead.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:16 am to AggieHank86
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Into the midst of a reasoned discussion regarding genetics, environment and nature-vs-nurture … bravely strode the church lady.
If it's not "a choice" then it has to be perversion; no 3rd choice
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:30 am to Shrimp Boat Captain
quote:Intensive DNA search yields 10 genes tied directly to schizophrenia
LINK
How does the C4 gene cause schizophrenia?
Genetics of Schizophrenia: Overview of Methods, Findings
The genetics of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder
Schizophrenia genes, gene expression, and neuropathology
Etc. etc., etc., etc.
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I could do addiction, but it would probably be more elucidating for you to do that one yourself.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:34 am to Shrimp Boat Captain
quote:Again, why do you say that?
Growing up sexually attracted to men, though it’s not frowned upon the same way today, is an unfathomable cross to bear.
For example, what if 50% of a society was gay? Would it still be "an unfathomable cross to bear"?
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:35 am to Shrimp Boat Captain
quote:
I’m taking this as it being a choice or not. It’s not.
There’s very little about human behavior that is a simple choice. And yet most of human behavior is a result of choices.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:25 pm to Robin Masters
Impossible. I personally know two sets of identical twins that contain one straight and one gay twin. Genetics can't have much to do with it.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:44 pm to Robin Masters
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Then it’s a genetic trait. And if it’s a genetic trait wouldn’t have evolution made that characteristic “extinct” since homosexuals would obviously be procreating less prolifically than heterosexuals? Anyone care to explain this to me?
Awful logic and misunderstanding of basic biology.
There are a lot of things people are “born with” today that are not inherited in a simple Mendelian pattern nor evolutionarily advantageous.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
For example, what if 50% of a society was gay? Would it still be "an unfathomable cross to bear"?
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:59 pm to ELVIS U
quote:Sometimes my sarcasm meter goes on the fritz. This is a sarcasm or a joke of some kind, right?
Impossible. I personally know two sets of identical twins that contain one straight and one gay twin. Genetics can't have much to do with it.
If not, I suggest that you read the thread and educate yourself.
To summarize, if one twin is gay, the chances that the other twin will be gay is NOT 100%, but it is approximately 6-10 times MORE likely (depending upon which study you read) than if the first twin were straight ... even among identical twins separated at birth. And about 3-5 times more likely for fraternal twins.
Even someone with no background in science whatsoever can see that there does exist a genetic component.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:00 pm to Robin Masters
Well recently they have tried making Gay cool with these kids in school. But when the rest of us were growing up they were not looked upon favorably. Quite the opposite. So I would say a man even having the ability to perform sexual acts with another man has to at least be born into a percentage of people. Most of us could never comprehend such an act.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:02 pm to NC_Tigah
I'm surprised no one has submitted the environmental factors manipulations as recent facilitators of overly-feminized/gay-leaning males (beyond the heavily programmed, propagandized "Gay is Good" institutional psyop messaging.)
Soy. Plastics. Vaxxes. Chem Ops.
How much of this unprecedented insanity can be attributed directly to "The FrankenScience" of Global Agenda 21 and 30? Have they been sabotaging mothers' milk and hormones and messing with genetics?
Soy. Plastics. Vaxxes. Chem Ops.
How much of this unprecedented insanity can be attributed directly to "The FrankenScience" of Global Agenda 21 and 30? Have they been sabotaging mothers' milk and hormones and messing with genetics?
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:03 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Interesting point.
There are a lot of things people are “born with” today that are not inherited in a simple Mendelian pattern nor evolutionarily advantageous.
When they teach kids about Mendel in the 3rd or 4th grade, they don't really explain that genetics is MUCH more complex than the simple, straightforward traits based upon which Mendel DISCOVERED genetics.
So, people with little scientific education seem to go thru life thinking that genetics are no more complex than what was taught in that grammar school class.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:03 pm to Robin Masters
Because that's not how genetics work. People are born with all kinds of predispositions to various disease, some life threatening. They don't just become extinct all of a sudden.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:05 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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...When the rest of us were growing up they were not looked upon favorably. Quite the opposite.
So I would say a man even having the ability to perform sexual acts with another man has to at least be born into a percentage of people. Most of us could never comprehend such an act.
+100
That was a normal society and its normal reaction.
Because such acts and behavior were rare AND rightly considered sick and disgusting.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:11 pm to AggieHank86
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When they teach kids about Mendel in the 3rd or 4th grade, they don't really explain that genetics is MUCH more complex than the simple, straightforward traits based upon which Mendel DISCOVERED genetics. So, people with little scientific education seem to go thru life thinking that genetics are no more co
The problem is most posters here stopped school around that stage.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:25 pm to Esquire
quote:I don't know that they stopped ATTENDING, but I often wonder whether some of them stopped LISTENING.
When they teach kids about Mendel in the 3rd or 4th grade, they don't really explain that genetics is MUCH more complex than the simple, straightforward traits based upon which Mendel DISCOVERED genetics. So, people with little scientific education seem to go thru life thinking that genetics are no more complex than what was taught in that grammar school class.quote:
The problem is most posters here stopped school around that stage.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:26 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Interesting point. When they teach kids about Mendel in the 3rd or 4th grade, they don't really explain that genetics is MUCH more complex than the simple, straightforward traits based upon which Mendel DISCOVERED genetics. So, people with little scientific education seem to go thru life thinking that genetics are no more complex than what was taught in that grammar school class.
I appreciate your calling my post “interesting,” but it’s really not. It’s very basic.
Take something like Down Syndrome. You are clearly born with it. It’s not a gene that you inherit from your parents who also have Down Syndrome. And it’s clearly not evolutionarily advantageous.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:42 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Yep.
Take something like Down Syndrome.
In the case of an Xq28 association with male homosexuality, X-linked recessives (Duchennes, colorblindness, hemophilia) could be even more illustrative.
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