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re: If DeSantis Does Not Quickly Condemn The Political Prosecution Of Trump, He's Finished

Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:51 pm to
Ignoring Trump is the best way to handle him.

Hell, even arresting him will probably make him stronger somehow.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22310 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:56 pm to
This is what I have heard their case is: The payment was made with Trump Corporation Funds and they tried to cover it up by listing it as legal fees. If he had made the payment with personal funds instead of business funds there probably would have been no problem.

Whether that is true or not, I don't know. Just what I heard. I am certainly no lawyer.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101210 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:57 pm to
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So everyone running for office now needs to be a reality TV star?


No, apparently they now have to be people who were groomed since adolescence to be in politics, and never experienced a single thing professionally outside of the government. Our sensibilities can’t possibly tolerate anything else anymore, it seems.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47991 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:58 pm to
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The payment was made with Trump Corporation Funds and they tried to cover it up by listing it as legal fees. If he had made the payment with personal funds instead of business funds there probably would have been no problem.


Then his attorney and financial team did not follow trumps explicit instructions to make sure all payments were “on the up and up”.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:13 pm to
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You need to forget about Trump. I realize that may be impossible for you.

DeSantis needs to do it because it’s the right thing to do from a policy and political standpoint.



Yet Trump is engaged in the very same behavior that Bragg is......he filed that bogus ethics complaint with the State trying to get Ron in trouble.....yet somehow you think Ron owes it Trump to defend him?

Your thread topic is about DeSantis and that he needs to get in here and defend Trump on principal.

I am quite sure DeSantis disagrees with this political persecution but Trump just makes it impossible to defend him. Ron isn't going to expend his political capital defending Trump. Maybe he would reconsider if Trump hasn't been relentlessly attacking him.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24633 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:38 pm to
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You need to forget about Trump. I realize that may be impossible for you.

DeSantis needs to do it because it’s the right thing to do from a policy and political standpoint.

No one should be afraid of taking a stand against political weaponization of prosecutions, regardless of how many mean things the target involved has said.


Myself and many others have tried warning that Trump was making huge mistakes by going after Ron the way he was. Now all of the sudden everyone expects Ron to come out guns blazing to defend someone that has attacked him & his family. Gone as far as praising the Dems (the ones going after him) trying to make Ron look bad.

I am 100% against what they are doing to Trump but expecting Ron to do anything other than releasing a general statement is dumb.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22310 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Then his attorney and financial team did not follow trumps explicit instructions to make sure all payments were “on the up and up”.



The attorney and former CFO are already in prison.

Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6690 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:02 pm to
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I am 100% against what they are doing to Trump but expecting Ron to do anything other than releasing a general statement is dumb.


If (and this is a huge IF) Trump is indicted, it will be purely politically motivated and a way for a dipshit DA to get his 15 minutes of fame.

However, and this is important, maybe we should expect the leader of our party not to have affairs with porn stars and hire better people than Michael Cohen.

This is one of the reasons so many of us are so adamant in our support of Ron - the chance to get a true conservative in the WH without all the stupid drama and petty shite that comes with Trump.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47450 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:05 pm to
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nationally he wont break 10% of the EC votes because no one knows him outside of florida


Wow that’s laughable.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47991 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:05 pm to
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This is one of the reasons so many of us are so adamant in our support of Ron - the chance to get a true conservative in the WH


Banging a porn star and hiring a shitty lawyer does not have anything to do with whether someone is a true conservative or not. Trumps spending is what you should be attacking. You should also be praising, non-stop, his foreign policy and tax policy.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22310 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:08 pm to
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However, and this is important, maybe we should expect the leader of our party not to have affairs with porn stars and hire better people than Michael Cohen.


100%. Cohen is a sleaze ball. Don't forget his former CFO who is serving time also.

Bad choices.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70838 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:08 pm to
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Upvoting


Twice.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70838 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:09 pm to
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You should know this.


Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6690 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Banging a porn star and hiring a shitty lawyer does not have anything to do with whether someone is a true conservative or not.


But it has everything to do with

1) the kind of people he hires (and it was not an impressive bunch the first go-round; I have no reason to believe it would be different in take two)

2) and his ability to win a general election.

All these self-inflicted wounds and unnecessary drama...go out and actually talk to real people with an IQ above room temperature - they're tired of Trump and all that he brings. Ron, on the other hand, has none of that baggage and therefore is the one and only chance for a real conservative to get into the WH in 2025.

Politics is all about power. And if you can't win elections (and MAGA has gotten its arse kicked in 18, 20, and 22, whether you want to believe it or not) then nothing else matters.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5522 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:14 pm to
Every Republican, let alone every American, should uniformly condemn what law enforcement has done to President Trump for going on 8 years now. Everyone.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47991 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:17 pm to
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2) and his ability to win a general election.


He won a general in 2016. In 2020 he got even more votes. The most votes in history, in fact. (If you take out the illegal votes for Biden). The whole “he can’t win a general” is silly.

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go out and actually talk to real people with an IQ above room temperature - they're tired of Trump and all that he brings


I love when people assume they are the smartest people in the room with no clue who they are talking to.

And after all of this you still can’t seem to get worked up over political persecution because you don’t like the politician. That is sad.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17763 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:18 pm to
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Trumps spending is what you should be attacking. You should also be praising, non-stop, his foreign policy and tax policy.

Yes are right as far as you go. Adding to your post, Trump should be held accountable for his role in Covid response and his complicity in further empowering the surveillance state. I think failure to deliver on the border should also be considered when deciding if he's the best option for 2024.
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6690 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:24 pm to
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He won a general in 2016.


Against the 2nd worst candidate for president in recent memory. HRC was universally loathed but the political party thought it was her turn so she won the nomination (sound familiar?). And even then, Trump barely squeaked out an electoral victory by about 100K votes in a few states. So don't say that 2016 was this massive electoral landslide because you and I know the truth.

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In 2020 he got even more votes. The most votes in history, in fact. (If you take out the illegal votes for Biden).


Not this shite again.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:28 pm to
None of this would have ever happened if Trump had not had "sexual relations" with Horseface.

... maybe Trumpers should focus on the fact that he asked for "Protests".
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70838 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:41 pm to
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Not this shite again.


Wisconsin Barry thinks he knows something about the law. Before today, I assumed that was true about tax law at least.

Now, I'm not so sure.
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