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re: If "All Lives Matter" Is a Racist Slogan, Then Whose Lives Don't Matter?
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:The messages is dumb or pretending you don't actually understand it is dumb?
This is dumb and you know it.
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
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That’s because “All Lives matter” is nothing but a farce. It’s protesting a protest. Who really cares about all lives when they say that?
I do. Unequivocally
Yup me as well. C on z type ppl are the worst
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:15 am to GusAU
All Lives Matter should be the considered the least racist slogan....it's absolutely inclusive. Remember out of the 30 unarmed citizens killed in 2019 by the police 10 were black, 10 were white, and 10 were other. 
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:36 am to Ace Midnight
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Black Lives Matter could be construed as racist, at least implicitly.
It could be but it shoudln't be
I think in this context when the movement is about how Blacks are treated as less.
Now as an orgnaization when tou see what they are asking for I think it goes above and beyond getting htem on equal footing, but conceptually in this context BLM isn't about putting them above others.
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Yes, and the plain language of All Lives Matter is racially neutal. As Dr. King would have approved.
But context matters. Thats how language works.
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WTF are you talking about?
You know what I am talking about don't be obtuse. There is a good amount of people saying ALM to contradict BLM. ITs not about actually caring its about undercutting the other message.
I am not going to accuse anyone personally of anything, but you know not everyone is saying it as some kind of altruistic slogan, and playing dumb isn't doing you any favors.
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By whom? The thousands of black lives snuffed out by other blacks every year in Democrat-run (for generations) urban shitholes?
The millions of black babies aborted since Roe v. Wade?
Or the handful of these unfortunate incidents who become international stories because of a crisis-selling, agenda-driven media?
Just exactly who is devaluing these "black lives"?
You can argue who is doing it, but you can't argue that we generally don't think twice about a young black guy dying in america.
And you can point fingers at Dems all you want. I am not going to stop you. Blacks have given them loyalty for decades and they Dems have spent most of that time lining their own pockets while doing nothing. But lets not pretend republicans are doing anything about it either.
Realistically, the issue is that it is not particularly easy to lift yourself out of poverty. The feel good stories tend to be the exception.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:51 am to TbirdSpur2010
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No. ALM includes BLM, by necessity.
I want true equality, not this current environment where we only hear about police brutality on a wide scale if it's a white cop and a black victim.
Great response Tbird!! Thank you.
BTW, I always thought you were black. I guess you just proved that to be wrong.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:55 am to Big Scrub TX
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The messages is dumb or pretending you don't actually understand it is dumb?
Are you really moronic enough to think he is pretending to not understand?
Don't answer....rhetorical question.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:55 am to GusAU
quote:This is all not really relevant.
Could someone, please, please, please just explain to me in a logical, reasonable fashion why "All Lives Matter" is considered racist? If ALL lives don't matter, then please explain WHO'S lives DO NOT MATTER? I already know that answer, but I then want to ask the question "Why do some lives matter, yet others don't?"
The vast majority who believe that ALM is a racist term keep pushing the mantra that "we need racial and social equality." If we have equality, then wouldn't that just automatically insinuate that ALL LIVES WOULD MATTER? Would someone who supports the "ALM is racist" position please explain how they don't see the ABSOLUTE HYPOCRISY in that belief. How in the hell can someone state in the SAME sentence that ALM is racist while proclaiming that the BLM movement is pushing for equality? How in the frick can EVERYONE not see the utter, blatant hypocrisy in that mindset?
If you feel black people are oppressed, it makes perfect sense.
If you feel black people are not oppressed, then no it doesn't make sense.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:57 am to SammyTiger
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quote: Black Lives Matter could be construed as racist, at least implicitly.
It could be but it shoudln't be I think in this context when the movement is about how Blacks are treated as less. Now as an orgnaization when tou see what they are asking for I think it goes above and beyond getting htem on equal footing, but conceptually in this context BLM isn't about putting them above others.
People are generally treated by the way they treat other people. I have found if I'm respectful to any person I interact with there's rarely any issues...this would apply in my interactions with police officers too.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:00 pm to shel311
"All Lives Matter" Is NOT a Racist Slogan.
Some people may think it is, but that is just their racist opinion.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:01 pm to Bass Tiger
When saying all lives matter, or saying you treat all people the same is considered racist, this country is beyond fricked.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:04 pm to RuLSU
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Make of that what you will: I take it to mean black people, black men especially, are far more likely to die via homicide
Ok, let's take that a step further.
How many of those black people were killed by blacks vs those killed by whites?
Let's take it a step further...how many white people were killed by whites vs those killed by blacks?
Looking forward to your stats.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:07 pm to Bass Tiger
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his would apply in my interactions with police officers too.
I mean my interractions with police is pretty low, but I have met a few that are just dicks.
Theyr'e all humans, and that mean inherently a percentage of them will be assholes. A percentage of them will be racists. Thats human nature. I don't think the fact that their job makes them constantly deal with criminals, many of whom are black, helps their world view. It is supper easy to slip into generalizing when you aren't seeing the best side of society.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:11 pm to shel311
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If you feel black people are oppressed, it makes perfect sense.
Do I agree that blacks suffer from some forms of oppression? Sadly, I do.
So, therefore, please answer the original question asked another way:
Since I agree there is some oppression, then PLEASE explain to me WHOSE LIVES DON'T MATTER. Don't beat around the bush....please tell who by race, creed, color, sex or political party.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:13 pm to Bourre
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Christians and white men’s lives don’t matter according to the mob and media
And Unborn lives but disproportionately unborn black lives.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:20 pm to Folsom
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Dude, I’m copying this and using it on my Facebook page. It’s really really good. Thanks
That's cool and your welcome. But make sure to put WHOSE, not WHO'S. I just realized my mistake...lol.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:29 pm to GusAU
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Tell me this, if someone really believed “All Lives Matter” why would you have an issue with people bringing attention to the devaluation of black lives?
Could you please provide a link where I have stated that I have an issue with BLM.
You made an accusation about me 4 hours ago. I asked you to please provide the link to back up your accusation. Nothing but crickets since then. Why won't you provide a link? Could it be that you have no issue with making shite up to try to support YOUR RACIST viewpoint?
Asking again, please provide a link.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:30 pm to SammyTiger
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Realistically, the issue is that it is not particularly easy to lift yourself out of poverty.
It is laughably easy:
1. Complete high school education,
2. Refrain from having children until married and if married, stay married,
3. Work at ANY kind of job,
4. Refrain from engaging in criminal activity
Do those 4 things (AND NOTHING ELSE), you have a 3 to 4 percent chance of being below the poverty line.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:30 pm to GusAU
quote:If so, I have no clue what you're not getting then.
Do I agree that blacks suffer from some forms of oppression? Sadly, I do.
quote:You literally just said you think blacks suffer from some forms of oppression then ask whose lives don't matter in all caps?
Since I agree there is some oppression, then PLEASE explain to me WHOSE LIVES DON'T MATTER. Don't beat around the bush....please tell who by race, creed, color, sex or political party.
No clue what you're going for here.
All lives matter. You said you agree black people face oppression, so what would you personally not understand about a black lives matter slogan?
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:33 pm to RuLSU
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t's just a lame phrase people use if they don't want to acknowledge BLM.
No, seriously, all lives (including black lives) matter.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:36 pm to GusAU
It is unbelievably amazing how many people are so weak and simple minded that they truly can't grasp that many people are against racism AND think that EVERYONE'S LIFE MATTERS.
Why is that concept so difficult to grasp for so many?
Unbelievable that I'm accused of being a racist because I truly believe EVERYBODY'S LIFE MATTERS by people (using the term very loosely) that DO NOT think everybody's life matters.
Why is that concept so difficult to grasp for so many?
Unbelievable that I'm accused of being a racist because I truly believe EVERYBODY'S LIFE MATTERS by people (using the term very loosely) that DO NOT think everybody's life matters.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 12:48 pm
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