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re: If "All Lives Matter" Is a Racist Slogan, Then Whose Lives Don't Matter?

Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:36 pm to
All Lives Matter = racist.

Ignoring for the moment that it is actually "Some Black Likes Matter, Not Others", "Black Lives Matter" can only mean:

a) Black Lives Matter THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSES

OR

b) Black Lives Matter MORE

Now, as noted above, it can't be "a" because that would mean "All Lives Matter."

So, it has to be "b."

However,

I have heard countless "leaders" insist that that is NOT what BLM is saying. Also, as indicated above, it is only "some" black lives that matter, so that means "b" cannot be true.

That leaves only one option...




























NO LIVES MATTER

Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:46 pm to
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All lives matter. You said you agree black people face oppression, so what would you personally not understand about a black lives matter slogan? ?


Ok, I see your reading comprehension skills are non-existent.

Please, please, please provide ANY link where I stated I didn't under the BLM movement. Any fricking link or STFU.

Let's try this one final time.

I can EXPLAIN it to you, but cannot COMPREHEND it for you...

The original question reworded was why is it racist if someone believes that all lives matter. Nowhere did I state I didn't understand the BLM movement. NOWHERE did I state the BLM movement was wrong/bad...NOWHERE!!

Provide a link to back up your lies or stop making up lies about me bitch...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Ok, I see your reading comprehension skills are non-existent.

Please, please, please provide ANY link where I stated I didn't under the BLM movement. Any fricking link or STFU.
Funny that you said my reading comprehension skills are non-existent then proceeded the very next sentence to whiff on comprehending what I just said.


I said you didn't understand, I never said or insinuated that YOU said you didn't understand it. Reading is fundamental, try it sometime.

quote:

Nowhere did I state I didn't understand the BLM movement. NOWHERE did I state the BLM movement was wrong/bad...NOWHERE!!
Nowhere did I state you did.

NOWHERE

NOWHERE!!

quote:

Provide a link to back up your lies or stop making up lies about me bitch...
Nope, I'm not gonna keep trying to discuss this with someone this far below my intelligence level.

Have at it, keep on losing your good fight.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Asking again, please provide a link.

Lol at soy boy sammy. It can't provide a link to back up it's lies, so it downvoted my request.



You really showed me bitch...

Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I said you didn't understand, I never said or insinuated that YOU said you didn't understand it. Reading is fundamental, try it sometime.


Ok mental midget, I started this thread asking a very simple question. Why is saying ALL LIVES MATTER racist? Why does just asking that question AUTOMATICALLY mean that I don't understand BLM? I DID NOT ask why BLM existed nor did I state anything that any remotely intelligent person could construe to mean I don't understand BLM. To the uneducated such as yourself, all means everyone. Also, to again help the uneducated, if saying everyone's life matters is racist, then that can only mean that to not be racist, I must admit that All Lives DON'T Matter. So, again, whose life doesn't matter? No one has given a logical answer.

It speaks volumes about your very low IQ that you can't grasp that. People with your mindset IMMEDIATELY implied that I did not understand BLM just because I asked "why is saying All Lives Matter racist".

So obviously anyone who thinks everyone's life is precious is a racist...and the only way to make up for having such an evil mindset is to admit that all lives DON'T matter.

So damn sick, sad and evil...
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39850 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:23 pm to
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Are you really moronic enough to think he is pretending to not understand?

Don't answer....rhetorical question.
You're really muddied it now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:26 pm to
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It speaks volumes about your very low IQ
Says the guy calling me out for being unable to comprehend something when he whiffed and didn't comprehend the conversation.

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People with your mindset IMMEDIATELY implied that I did not understand BLM just because I asked "why is saying All Lives Matter racist".
Nope. I even explained why I felt you didn't understand it, gave the exact reason, it wasn't that. You still can't comprehend.


You really need to figure some shite out, you're failing awfully bad while melting. I noticed the moment I called you out for your lack of comprehension, you realized you fricked it up and then got super defensive about it. Get your shite together, you're looking pretty silly here.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Have at it, keep on losing your good fight


How bad am I losing?

Will it be the same kind of landslide loss that Trump suffered against Hillary?

Oh the horror....



Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:37 pm to
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Nope. I even explained why I felt you didn't understand it, gave the exact reason, it wasn't that. You still can't comprehend


Is this really your explanation?

quote:

All lives matter. You said you agree black people face oppression, so what would you personally not understand about a black lives matter slogan? ?


In no way is that a logical explanation to why I don't understand BLM.

Why can't someone believe that All Lives Matter...including Black Lives Matter?

Seriously, why can't someone believe both?

Why does it have to be one or the other?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26314 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Rightfully so. The issues go much further than black folks, but I dont expect indoctrinated people to understand


So do you acknowledge there are issues? If so, can you give an example?
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Whether you agree with the political message or not, it's not hard to understand the implied message in the slogan. Why are you playing dumb?


So, EVERYONE that states that all lives matter is actually implying something else? Really? Lol.

Why, because you and your moronic ilk state so?

Are SOME people using that to condemn BLM? Yes, I'm sure there is a very small minority that are. However, I truly believe that MOST people of all colors and races truly believes that everyone's life has value.

So, lets just state what YOU think is being implied: Everyone who feels that everyone's life matters REALLY actually mean that everyone's life matters EXCEPT black people.

How in the hell can anyone make that leap?

ETA: I really don't think you are playing dumb. You have proven that you don't have to play.

This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8866 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 2:03 pm to
As others here have also said, the only time black lives don't matter is when blacks are murdering other blacks in St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, etc. BLM is crickets on this.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:10 pm to
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Could someone, please, please, please just explain to me in a logical, reasonable fashion why "All Lives Matter" is considered racist?
Here goes.

First and foremost, the slogan "black lives matter" does not and has never meant that other lives don't matter, or that others matter less. There is an implied "too" at the end, and it would be extraneous and unnecessary to include it. Other examples are "back the blue" and "support our troops". When someone says "back the blue", should we interpret that to mean that they do not also support our troops, firefighters, and others who certainly also matter and deserve our support and respect, just because they didn't say "back the blue, too"? Absolutely not! That would be an absurd assumption. The simpler form "back the blue" simply calls attention to police, and it in no way implies that others deserve any less attention.

Do you agree so far? Assuming that you do, it is important to keep that in mind as the context for the rest of the logic.

"All lives matter" is an excellent slogan and principle for living our lives. It adequately describes the mindset we should all have, every single day. Out of context, it is perfect, and no reasonable person can argue against such a slogan. But context matters (too). In this case, the context in which "all lives matter" is used is almost exclusively in response to "black lives matter". This is evidenced by search trends, social media, face to face encounters, etc. And just as "black lives matter" omits the implied "too" at the end, "all lives matter" omits the implied "no" or "hold on" at the beginning. To the earlier example, if you say "I back the blue" and in response I say "I support all of our servicemen and women", that would take away from your cause. By bundling your support of police into my own cause of supporting a much broader group, I have superseded and overshadowed whatever reason you had for calling specific attention to police officers. In effect, I have said that I don't care that you support the police, and that they are not important enough to be highlighted without also including others at the same time. Again, this is only the case if I say it in response to you saying that you back the blue, OR in the context of a widespread "back the blue" movement. In any other context or situation, proclaiming my support of ALL servicemen is perfectly fine.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

In no way is that a logical explanation to why I don't understand BLM.

Why can't someone believe that All Lives Matter...including Black Lives Matter?

Seriously, why can't someone believe both?

Why does it have to be one or the other?
You're level of comprehension is way below what I'm equipped to help you with.

You're on your own on this one. I am 100% not smart enough to be able to explain this to you given how far behind you are in your level of comprehension.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
66265 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Who really cares about all lives when they say that?
I mean a decent human being would.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97987 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:27 pm to
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Korkstand


Lol coming from a dude who has fearmongered like no other over the hoax Corona Virus


No one takes you serious
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1302 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:29 pm to
How many yes does this have to be explained to you all. Nah you just want to understand that's what it is
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:29 pm to
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And just as "black lives matter" omits the implied "too" at the end, "all lives matter" omits the implied "no" or "hold on" at the beginning


I have no issue with the first half of that statement, because that's how I thought it was intended in the very beginning.

The second half of that statement is total horseshite. There is no implied "no" or "hold on" at the beginning for most good, honest, moral, law abiding people. It may be true for a few people, but only assholes with an agenda state that as though it is fact. Again, what total horseshite.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:33 pm to
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How many yes does this have to be explained to you all. Nah you just want to understand that's what it is


Use grammatically logical English please to rephrase that statement so it can be interpreted.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Lol coming from a dude who has fearmongered like no other over the hoax Corona Virus
I have been very consistent in saying that we should never have shut down at all. I disagree 100% with all this quarantine bullshite. I have also been very consistent in estimating covid IFR at 0.5%, or 5X an average flu. Is that fearmongering? Because I don't consider that to be very scary at all.
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