re: If "All Lives Matter" Is a Racist Slogan, Then Whose Lives Don't Matter?

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The second half of that statement is total horseshite. There is no implied "no" or "hold on" at the beginning for most good, honest, moral, law abiding people. It may be true for a few people, but only assholes with an agenda state that as though it is fact. Again, what total horseshite.

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Put it in the context in which it is almost exclusively used. "All lives matter" is used in response to "black lives matter". That is why we are talking about it right now.

So imagine if every time someone posts about backing the blue, I come along and say "support all servicemen". How would that come across, honestly? What if for every event that causes a lot of people to post their "back the blue" logos and #backtheblue hashtags, I make it a point to comment #backallcolors and post my own logo? Are you telling me that people wouldn't consider me anti-cop, or at the very least that I'm trying to minimize their importance?

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Put it in the context in which it is almost exclusively used. "All lives matter" is used in response to "black lives matter". That is why we are talking about it right now.

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Lol....

Yes, it is used as a response for everyone. For the vast majority (no, not all) that state it, it is to remind everyone that no individual race should be allowed to be treated differently than any other individual race. ALL races SHOULD be treated equally. Are they, no...but that was not the original question posted. Adamantly stating that it is a racist response from everyone is bullshite. Just because that infuriates those of you with an agenda, doesn't mean that you are correct in telling us what we are implying when we say it.

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So imagine if every time someone posts about backing the blue, I come along and say "support all servicemen". How would that come across, honestly? What if for every event that causes a lot of people to post their "back the blue" logos and #backtheblue hashtags, I make it a point to comment #backallcolors and post my own logo? Are you telling me that people wouldn't consider me anti-cop, or at the very least that I'm trying to minimize their importance?

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Are you frickin serious? No way in hell would I think you were against cops because you state that you support ALL servicemen. What arse-backwards kind of logic is that? I would absolutely agree with you if you stated such. No way in hell would I construe that to mean you were anti-cops....nor would most logically thinking people that DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA.

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For the vast majority (no, not all) that state it, it is to remind everyone that no individual race should be allowed to be treated differently than any other individual race.

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Are you honestly denying the intent of doing so?

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Just because that infuriates those of you with an agenda

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Do I seem infuriated to you? And what do you think my agenda is here? You asked for a logical and reasonable explanation. I answered logically, reasonably, and calmly. If anyone has an agenda ITT, it has to be you.

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doesn't mean that you are correct in telling us what we are implying when we say it.

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I'm telling you how reasonable and logical people interpret what you are saying. That is the question you asked for an answer to.

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Are you frickin serious?

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Most of the time.

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No way in hell would I think you were against cops because you state that you support ALL servicemen. What arse-backwards kind of logic is that?

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It is not arse-backwards at all if you pick up on context clues.

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I would absolutely agree with you if you stated such. No way in hell would I construe that to mean you were anti-cops....nor would most logically thinking people that DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA.

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Let's try again.

A child is seriously ill, and his parents put up a gofundme or whatever and start a hashtag #bobbyneedshelp. I make it a point to, when I see this trending, start posting #manykidsneedhelp. What is my intent in doing so?

Hey. That’s my job.

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Hey. That’s my job.

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gthog is takin' yer jerb.

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Are you honestly denying the intent of doing so?

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That the MAJORITY only say it to dismiss BLM? Absolutely.

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And what do you think my agenda is here? You asked for a logical and reasonable explanation.

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I can't say it for a fact, but I have an opinion. You wouldn't like it. Notice, I said "for those of you that have an agenda". You may or may not be one of those. I did not paint everyone that disagrees with me with a broad brush like you and others have with done about people that believe everyone's life matters. (Still blows my mind how someone can argue against all lives mattering...truly is sick). As far as you giving a logical and reasonable explanation...

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I'm telling you how reasonable and logical people interpret what you are saying.

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Really? I realize that most people with your mindset totally ignore actual facts while making up your own fake facts to try to back up your lunacy, but, since I don't want to speak for everyone, let's just use the responses in this thread to determine which one of us the majority (notice, again, I'm not speaking for everyone) of reasonable and logical people here agree with more.

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It is not arse-backwards at all if you pick up on context clues.

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YOU are the one who fails to pick up on context clues. You've made your mind up that people that say all lives matter are racist.

Nothing can be said to change your mind, so, I'm going to end my conversation with you now and go drink a few beers with some friends and enjoy a Friday night out. You can have the last word/post.

FWIW, I still hope that you and your family and friends have a safe weekend because I still believe that yours and everyone elses life matters...even if you do not.

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(Still blows my mind how someone can argue against all lives mattering...truly is sick).

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You know damn well I did no such thing.

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Really? I realize that most people with your mindset totally ignore actual facts while making up your own fake facts to try to back up your lunacy, but, since I don't want to speak for everyone, let's just use the responses in this thread to determine which one of us the majority (notice, again, I'm not speaking for everyone) of reasonable and logical people here agree with more.

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On this board?

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YOU are the one who fails to pick up on context clues. You've made your mind up that people that say all lives matter are racist.

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I actually did NOT say that, ever. I have only explained plainly and reasonably how saying such a thing at extremely conspicuous times (context) can absolutely be interpreted as having racist intent. I mean you literally are just taking a phrase, removing the black, and replacing it with something else.

It's not your prerogative to determine whether you are acting like a racist, that is for others to determine. Just like it is your prerogative to determine whether someone else is acting racist (or like an a-hole, or whatever) toward you. And whether it was your intent to do so initially, we have a social and human responsibility to respect how others feel. If you think I'm being an a-hole and you tell me, I can choose to apologize and stop doing it, OR I can remove all doubt as to my intent and continue the behavior.

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I still believe that yours and everyone elses life matters...even if you do not.

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How can you be so disingenuous while claiming to want logic and reason?

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Take your damn L and git, mijo.

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Call it a loss if you want, but anyone who says that taking an extremely popular slogan, removing and replacing the "black" in order to reappropriate it (and always at extremely conspicuous times) could not be considered racist, is kidding themselves.

Further, continuing to do something, and in some cases doing it more, after being informed that it can easily be construed as racist, suggests that the person is in fact doing it to cause harm.


That's just how logical and reasonable people view these interactions, mijo.

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I know you know this is smart and you are absolutely correct.

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Thanks baw....