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re: IDF soldier defiles statue of Christ is Southern Lebanon
Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:14 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:14 pm to joshnorris14
Who cares? The Pope is my lord.
The solar panel is a nice touch too. I guess Jesus forgot to warn about climate change.
The solar panel is a nice touch too. I guess Jesus forgot to warn about climate change.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 3:17 pm
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:28 pm to joshnorris14
I used to come here to this website and most days would learn something or get a different perspective on some topic.
Now it’s mostly a bunch of halftards bitching about some trivial nonsense from 8000 miles away.
Now it’s mostly a bunch of halftards bitching about some trivial nonsense from 8000 miles away.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:57 am to RollTide1987
quote:Making idols to worship is certainly part of what the 2nd commandment is talking about, but as Jesus showed us in the Sermon on the Mount, there is more to the moral law of God than the words provide in themselves (murder isn’t just physical killing but hatred of others, for instance).
After the passage in question, we read: "You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God." Given this contextual prohibition of idolatry, it's reasonable to conclude that God's command not to make "graven images" refers to making images to be worshiped as deities.
The 2nd commandment includes making any image to bow down to (engage in worship), including anything or anyone in heaven, including God. God is jealous not just for His own worship against false gods, but worship of Himself as He has commanded over and against man-made worship of Himself.
Moses interprets this for us in Deuteronomy 4, when he says “Then the LORD spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You heard the sound of words, but saw no form; there was only a voice… Therefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since you saw no form on the day that the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure…” (vvs 12, 15-16)
He says that God did not reveal Himself in any form, therefore the people of Israel should not make any images to represent God, or make any images of any kind for worship. He compared the invisible nature of God to the visible idols that are wrongfully created and worshipped.
This is further supported by the incident of the golden calf. When Aaron made it, he said that it represents the God that brought them out of Israel (v 4), and that they were going to have a feast to the Lord (v 5) in celebration. They worshipped the one true God in a false way, by making images of invisible God.
The calf symbolized God in the minds of many Israelites, which is why they kept making calf-idols of gold and silver, which God condemned (Hosea 8:5-6; 1 Kings 12:28-30).
In the NT, we are given more clear command to only worship God in spirit because He is spirit: “God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:24).
quote:I agree that the command not to make images isn’t so comprehensive that we can’t draw a picture of a sunset or create a statue of an animal. What is being commanded against is false worship through images, either false gods or the one true and living God. We shouldn’t make images of God.
Here is the most decisive biblical argument: In Numbers 21:8-9, God commands Moses to make a graven image (a bronze serpent) set on a pole, so that anyone bitten by a serpent would live when they looked at it. This graven image is used by God, in a religious context, to heal those who had been bitten.
Furthermore, in Exodus 25:18-19, God commands the making of the two cherubim of gold on either side of the mercy seat atop the Ark of the Covenant, the holiest religious artifact in all of Israel. And the inner sanctuary of the Temple contained two large statues of angels (1 Kings 6:23-28), and Solomon also had the walls of the Temple decorated with carved images of angels, palm trees, and flowers (1 Kings 6:29).
The conclusion is inescapable: when God said "Do not make graven images," He wasn't saying "Do not make images of any kind," because He later commanded people to make images. He was condemning idolatry, not the making of statues, because if He were condemning the making of statues, He would contradict Himself.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:59 am to demtigers73
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Jews defiling christ and Trump thinks he is christ.
Strange times!
Idiots turning out in numbers posting idiotic shite is part of these "strange times".
Just sayin
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:09 am to Champagne
quote:It seems like you are purposely distorting what I’m saying. I hope I’m wrong, but my comment wasn’t very long and you still ignored a key piece of what I said.
In that case, what the Jewish soldier did by smashing the Jesus Idol is an act that pleased God, according to you. You and the Jewish soldier are in agreement here.
I don’t think God is pleased by sin. When someone destroys the property of another, that is stealing (violation of the 8th commandment). We should not break one commandment in order to uphold another.
I don’t know the context of the “Jesus” idol that the soldier smashed. I don’t know whose property that was, but I’m going off of the assumption that it belonged to someone else. If so, that was theft to break it, which means that was not a good response. The kings of Israel in the OT had the authority to destroy the idols, but a random soldier doesn’t have the authority to do so.
In addition, I stated that even if it were a good and lawful thing to do, the soldier’s motivation plays a role in whether or not the action was actually pleasing to God. Several times in the OT, God rejected the prayers and sacrifices of Israel because they were otherwise lawless and their hearts were not given to God by faith. If the soldier was merely destroying the idol because he hates Jesus and Christianity, then that is also sinful. God would reject his motivations.
So no, I’m not saying it was a good thing what the soldier did, though I do think all people should destroy the idols that they have made and own.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:11 am to CitizenK
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There are muzzies in the IDF.
There are even chicks walking around in the HaKiryah in hijabs.
Source: Me
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:35 am to joshnorris14
NM
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 8:37 am
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:36 am to Portballs
Lebanon has (or had really until the palestinians invaded) a large christian population.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:39 am to joshnorris14
“ Very prevalent in Lebanon, where Christians rule in a triumvirate with Shia and Sunni co-leaders.
As opposed to Judaism.
What are you even talking about?”(quote Josh).
I’m talking that the Christian Narrative of Jesus as “only begotten” and “no man cometh up only other way “ is absolute. It’s either v or. No middle ground. And very offensive as presented by many Christian. They nailed Jesus up the first time, but His “second coming “ will be different.
It’s nonsense to think there is no innate conflict re said Narrative. Many Jews despise that Narrative and most Muslims view it as blasphemous; though their theology accepts Jesus as a Prophet. But most certainly not THE Son of God.
The Jewish State of Israel owes its existence to Christian sacrifice and continued support. Were it not for that they would cease to exist. But for God’s merciful intervention (IMO).
I have no idea how the Eschatological narrative unfolds as I am no theological scholar, but to think that the Jihadist version of Islam can coexist like your Lebanon example in either a Jewish (Zionist) State or a Constitutional Republic of Christians who believe that the Jews are “God’s Chosen, and when Jihadist Islam attacks Zionist Israel that the passion and conflict won’t increase is ludicrous on its face. There will be no satisfactory rewriting of either Christian, Jewish or Muslim Theology to appease Jihadist Islam.
I think we’ll see pretty quickly whether or not the Eschatological narrative holds true or not. My current belief is obvious.
As opposed to Judaism.
What are you even talking about?”(quote Josh).
I’m talking that the Christian Narrative of Jesus as “only begotten” and “no man cometh up only other way “ is absolute. It’s either v or. No middle ground. And very offensive as presented by many Christian. They nailed Jesus up the first time, but His “second coming “ will be different.
It’s nonsense to think there is no innate conflict re said Narrative. Many Jews despise that Narrative and most Muslims view it as blasphemous; though their theology accepts Jesus as a Prophet. But most certainly not THE Son of God.
The Jewish State of Israel owes its existence to Christian sacrifice and continued support. Were it not for that they would cease to exist. But for God’s merciful intervention (IMO).
I have no idea how the Eschatological narrative unfolds as I am no theological scholar, but to think that the Jihadist version of Islam can coexist like your Lebanon example in either a Jewish (Zionist) State or a Constitutional Republic of Christians who believe that the Jews are “God’s Chosen, and when Jihadist Islam attacks Zionist Israel that the passion and conflict won’t increase is ludicrous on its face. There will be no satisfactory rewriting of either Christian, Jewish or Muslim Theology to appease Jihadist Islam.
I think we’ll see pretty quickly whether or not the Eschatological narrative holds true or not. My current belief is obvious.
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