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re: I was told Boots on the Ground were needed to defeat Iran?

Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:00 am to
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:00 am to
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I was told Boots on the Ground were needed to defeat Iran?


For actual regime change it would take boots on the ground.

Where’s that Iranian uprising this administration promised?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55560 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:24 am to
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how are "we" im (sic) full control of venezuela?
be specific
hint - you won't

Buddy, we forced Venezuela to send their oil to us. It’s the only thing we want from Venezuela, and it's by far the most valuable thing they have. You should leave this one alone, or you can reduce yourself to arguing that we aren’t in full control because we don’t control the traffic lights.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:34 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11269 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:32 am to
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Exactly. We are in full control of the strait
We are im full control of Venezuela


Spending taxpayer dollars with no return isn't owning the oil. It just means we are playing games with other countries at the taxpayers' expense.

quote:

We own that oil.


Are we issuing contracts to exploration companies to extract the oil?

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55560 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:35 am to
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We own that oil.

Are we issuing contracts to exploration companies to extract the oil?


Elsewhere, SDV has specified that by “own” he means that we got the best of them, similar to the way the term is used in sports, as a taunt.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:36 am
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:37 am to
And that guy’s out here talking who’s issuing contracts to whom.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:38 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:37 am to
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Define regime


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A regime is a system of government or political organization that defines how a state is ruled, how officials gain power, and the rules governing state interaction with citizens. More permanent than a specific administration but less than the state itself, it includes democratic, authoritarian, and hybrid types.

Key aspects of a regime include:

System of Rule: It refers to the set of rules, norms, and institutions that determine how power is exercised.

Structure: It establishes how leaders are selected and how decisions are made.

Connotation: Often used negatively to describe authoritarian, repressive, or unrepresentative governments.

Stability: Regimes are considered more enduring than a single "government" or "administration".

Usage: Frequently applied to describe the period of rule by a specific leader or group (e.g., "the military regime")


Wikipedia has a full article on it

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In politics, a regime (also spelled régime) is a system of political organization that determines access to public office, and the extent of power held by officials. A regime is generally more permanent than a government, but less permanent than the state.[2] Political scientists often categorize regimes as being democratic, autocratic, or hybrid.[3][4][5] A regime can also refer to a set of enduring practices that transcend a single government, such as a regulatory regime or an apartheid regime.[6]


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In contemporary academic discourse, the term "regime" is used more broadly than in popular or journalistic contexts. It refers to "an intermediate stratum between the government, which is responsible for day-to-day decision-making and can be changed relatively easily, and the state, which encompasses a complex bureaucracy tasked with a wide range of coercive and administrative functions".[10] In global studies and international relations, the concept of regime is also used to name international regulatory agencies (for example, international regime), which lie outside of the control of national governments. Some authors thus distinguish analytically between institutions and regimes while recognizing that they are bound up with each other:

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Institutions as we describe them are publicly enacted, relatively-enduring bodies of practice, procedures and norms, ranging from formalized legal entities such as the WTO to more informal but legally-buttressed and abiding sets of practices and regimes such as the liberal capitalist market. The key phrases here are 'publicly enacted' and 'relatively enduring'. The phrase 'publicly enacted' in this sense implies active projection, legal sanction, and often as not, some kind of opposition.[11]


It is common to tie an individual or ideology to a government regime, for example Russia under Vladimir Putin or China's Communist regime. Regimes can thus be defined as sets of protocols and norms embedded either in institutions or institutionalized practices – formal such as states or informal such as the "liberal trade regime" – that are publicly enacted and relatively enduring.[11]
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476860 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:38 am to
Why would I ever RA posters?

*ETA: I used to RA posters who were being overtly racist, but that's largely allowed with the rise of the "blood and soil" types fighting the "economic zone" so I don't even RA racists anymore.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:39 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19941 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:45 am to
I love reading your predictions and prognostications.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476860 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:46 am to
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I love reading your predictions and prognostications.


Because of how often they're right, like with how boots on the ground would be required for regime change? Because I was right and the conflict showed that.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19941 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:50 am to
Yes, just like Irving Fisher in 1929.

Brilliant!
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18896 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:53 am to
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Because of how often they're right, like with how boots on the ground would be required for regime change? Because I was right and the conflict showed that.


If you had half of the intelligence you claim to have, you wouldn't be a divorce lawyer living in Lake Charles.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476860 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:54 am to
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es, just like Irving Fisher in 1929.

No. Nothing like that.

Has the regime changed? No. The people ruling Iran today are part of the regime. There is no new population from outside the regime running things. The IRGC is still controlling the population. The population and structure of government remain unchanged.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:00 am to
I think all of you fail at this immediately out of the gate because none of you have even suggested the idea of defining what “regime” means in the specific context of this situation. For example in your case, if the janitor who was employed by the dearly departed Ayatollah to personally clean his shitter is part of “the regime.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476860 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:02 am to
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If you had half of the intelligence you claim to have, you wouldn't be a divorce lawyer living in Lake Charles.


You don't understand highly gifted people.

The man with the reported highest IQ (Christopher Langan) is a bouncer in a bar.

One of the smartest people I have met (in Honors College) dropped out Freshman year. I doubt he ever went back to college. Two others do have post-graduate degrees but neither work on those fields anymore and do other jobs.

I can flip the switch at any time to do other things but I don't want to. I can scale up what I do, but I don't want to. Last summer when I was introducing my summer intern around the community a judge told him that lots of lawyers are jealous of what I was able to build.

And it's not just the intelligence. It's the personality traits. I'm a very hard INTJ.

People like you don't understand it's more satisfying to know I was smarter in how I built a system (while being present daily and appreciating the EV created in real time) than doing what everyone else does and making a bit more money (while not being able to enjoy it because of the added stress, leading to "low calorie" paths of enjoyment).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476860 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:03 am to
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I think all of you fail at this immediately out of the gate because none of you have even suggested the idea of defining what “regime” means in the specific context of this situation.

I literally gave one on this page, for people who aren't educated on politics and political systems.

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For example in your case, if the janitor who was employed by the dearly departed Ayatollah to personally clean his shitter is part of “the regime.”

No. That janitor had no operational role, authority, or succession role. It's an agent of the regime, not a part of the regime.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19941 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:04 am to
Why are you concerned with total regime change? It's never going to completely change. They're a Muslim nation and are inherently evil, but it's flipped a few times already.

From CNN:

As of March/April 2026, Donald Trump claimed that "regime change" in Iran had already been somewhat achieved following U.S.-Israeli strikes, arguing that top Iranian leaders were killed and replaced. Despite previously stating it was not a goal, he claimed a new and less radical regime was in place.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:04 am to
Do you have Asperger Syndrome? Not that there would be anything wrong with that.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:06 am to
And the way you’re defining it, you expect everyone else to operate under that same exact definition?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476860 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:11 am to
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Why are you concerned with total regime change? I


My actual concern related to it was boots on the ground.

But within this thread, it's correcting the straw man made in OP.

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As of March/April 2026, Donald Trump claimed that "regime change" in Iran had already been somewhat achieved f

Trump says stupid shite for his NPC base. That's just an example of it
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47007 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:13 am to
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And the way you’re defining it, you expect everyone else to operate under that same exact definition?


I think it's reasonable to at least agree to not change the definition to mean the opposite of how it's currently understood
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