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re: I was told Boots on the Ground were needed to defeat Iran?

Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:20 am to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:20 am to
And you’re assuming everyone has the same “current understanding?” It would sure need to be if folks are arguing nuances. Otherwise it’s inevitable that everyone’s pretty much on different pages. Which is kind of pitiful when you consider how confident and staunch some people are in their remarks.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:22 am to
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And you’re assuming everyone has the same “current understanding?”


I will state that people are knowingly changing the definition in order to imply some strategic political victory rather than having good faith discussions.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:25 am to
I get that, but can’t those same people think the same thing, but in the other direction?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:27 am to
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I get that, but can’t those same people think the same thing, but in the other direction?


Both things can't be true. I'm asserting they are intentional being deceptive. If I am right, they can't also assume the people who are using the term that they are changing are also changing the meaning of the term.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:38 am to
Don't forget the flood the zone strategy where numerous options are listed for victory from the outset.

The ones we achieve are the real goals

The ones we don't were just for negotiations and were never real goals.

All must be judged at the end

Art of the deal.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:47 am to
And see in my view what you just stated there could just as easily be described as one of many options to deploy as justifications or reasons why a particular result isn’t victory. “Flooding the zone” with similar options/justifications/reasons why. These are all examples of what I conclude is people’s deeply rooted confusion between opinion and fact/reality.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:49 am to
Definitions are fluid for the most ardent.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:51 am to
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Because I was right and the conflict showed that.


Naw, that's a logical fallacy.

The only way the conflict could have showed that is if regime change was attempted without boots on the ground, failed, then attempted with boots on the ground and succeeded.

Just because it wasn't achieved without boots on the ground doesn't mean it would have been had boots been added.

It might have been proven that only nuclear weapons are what would have been necessry to achieve a regime change, for example.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:51 am to
Lol they’re “fluid” only when they don’t align with yours.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:57 am to
Lol
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:00 am to
Ooof, downvote, that’s gonna leave a mark. Medic!!
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:01 am to
That’s weird. They don’t bother me.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:03 am to
Something’s weird, but it ain’t that.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:03 am to
Absolutely. On that I agree.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:04 am to
Good boy.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:07 am to
STDtiger, get out of Davy’s account.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476838 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:08 am to
Don't mind him. He's engaging in satire.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
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157852 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:11 am to
I don’t. I ignore him until he calls out for my attention anyway.

I do enjoy his style though. The posts are “unique”.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98106 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:13 am to
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You don't understand highly gifted people.


Wow

The only gift you have is being wrong about everything and tds
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20276 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:15 am to
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Trump has put on a master class in handling the Iranian situation.


Which is why the TDS mentally ill are rooting for Iran so bad!
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