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re: I Want My Reparations

Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:36 am to
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:36 am to
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Life expectancy pre 1650 was 35-40, so it was not an insignificant amount of time.
that is a ridiculously misleading statistic. It is completely skewed by early childhood deaths.

If a person in that era survived childhood, they could expect to live well into their 60s.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116764 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:42 am to
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Yeah. They’re almost white!

Hell, some considered them almost human. British scientists of the 18th century showed illustrations of the human face, the Irish face and the gorilla face. The conclusion was that Irish were halfway to modern human.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29353 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:42 am to
More white privilege.

Little white kids scooped up before little black kids.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13571 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:02 am to
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If a person in that era survived childhood

So you're saying that a kid put into indentured servitude may spend most of their lives as a slave. Got it.

What's with your weird attitude to minimize any period of slavery?
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9415 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:09 am to

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Another genius conflating chattel slavery and indentures.



Yes, in your mind you’re the provocative genius…. So you’re implying that those Irish children signed a contract with the Kings in order to be shipped across the ocean to become workers?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42195 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:18 am to
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Where are the reparations for my people?


Why did people hate your ancestors like that?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57976 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:29 am to
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Why did people hate your ancestors like that?


It seems some of my ancestors hated each other, so I guess I have to pay reparations to myself. Maybe I can make #SelfVictimization the new thing in the AWFL (Affluent White Female Liberals) crowd and get a GoFundMe out of it.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2147 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:51 am to
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So you’re implying that those Irish children signed a contract with the Kings in order to be shipped across the ocean to become workers?
No, I am affirmatively STATING (not "implying") that the Irish sent to the Americas by the English were not "slaves" by any recognized definition of that word and that you are being intentionally disingenuous in spreading the "Irish Slavery in America" myth. (I am not even getting into the nonsensical notion that the English were capturing thousands of Irish CHILDREN and shipping them to the Americas as forced labor).

So, you are disingenuous, or you are just woefully uninformed and fell prey to the Far Right nutcases ... who started that myth to minimize the evils of chattel slavery.

Whether "indentured," convicts (often for relatively-minor crimes) or some other form of "involuntary colonist" (often simply poverty), the Irish were FREE after expiration of the term of their service. Therein lies the key difference.

I say all of that as someone with substantial Irish ancestry ... and proud of it.

Lastly, I invite you to present anything RESEMBLING "proof" that 100 Irish children were shipped to the American colonies as slaves in 1619. It just DID NOT HAPPEN.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 12:26 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:44 pm to
A case is for amateurs
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4325 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 3:56 pm to
Your analysis is relentless.
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