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re: I want Biblical evidence that Christians are called to support Israel

Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:53 am to
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if tomorrow some people more powerful than you decided half your back yard belonged to them and started launching piss bombs at your house would you wanna kill them?


This is a false premise, but very commonly cited. This victim narrative was generated by the same critical theorist groups and style of thinking that energizes the disaffected marxist masses.

Radical Islamists glommed onto this victim narrative because it coincides with their goals. It’s useful to them, and helps assuage their feelings of inadequacy since their “perfect society” as lived by their prophet, was and is in massive decline after ruling and conquering for a 1000 years.
This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 11:55 am
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:55 am to
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our best interest to crush the Islamist in Iran and free its people from their tyranny.


What if those "Islamists" are actually just a creation of Israel (and the CIA)?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16439 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:56 am to
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I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you; and all the families of the earth will be blessed through you.



Who is the you that God was talking to?
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5120 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:58 am to
And Abraham’s not trusting God’s plan is what bore Ishmael and the birth of the demonic religion Islam.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55299 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:58 am to
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those who confess Jesus Christ are Israel


Indeed. And that Bible passage from Genesis about cursing those who curse you is a promise given to the NEW Jerusalem and its Davidic King Jesus Christ. As you say, it is a promise to Christians.

Every Jewish person is called to come to Jesus Christ, and this promise in Genesis is for those who do so.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:00 pm to
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If you know anything about the Biblical history of Israel, they often had bad leaders who didn’t sit well with their following God. That disobedience led to their journey from Egypt to the promised land much longer.

Much like the gentile that rejects God, the Jew will be dealt with similarly. But that doesn’t change their being a chosen people


So I assume you take the position that our actions are based on free will as opposed to God having things already previously laid out and predetermined.
Posted by scorb
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
2167 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:02 pm to
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I find it ironic that Israel is not flooding other Nations with their people in order to take over countries.
But the same can’t be said for other Muslim countries.

You do realize that was the exact plan Zionists used to take over Palestine right after WWI.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27178 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:03 pm to
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I find it ironic that Israel is not flooding other Nations with their people in order to take over countries.

Flooding our government covertly is better?
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2150 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:08 pm to
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find it ironic that Israel is not flooding other Nations with their people in order to take over countries.

HIAS is the largest sponsor of refugees into the United States of America.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50513 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:08 pm to
Amen sir
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50513 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:09 pm to
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What if those "Islamists" are actually just a creation of Israel (and the CIA)?



...and Hillary and John McCain...
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27178 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:11 pm to
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This is a false premise

which date and border do you dispute?

This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55299 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Amen sir




And in this sense, Old Israel are God's Chosen, because God chose them to be the vessel through which God Saved all of the nations and peoples of the world.

Also, with regard to those who "curse" Israel or the Jewish people, the Bible passage in question is certainly true. We here in the USA are safe from this curse, because our country has always been a good friend to Israel and the Jewish people - NOW more than ever before.

There's nothing anti-Jewish about any of this.

Finally, why would any people or nation dedicate themselves to the objective of killing Jews and annihilating the state of Israel? Of course, we Americans oppose people and nations who would do so.
This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:12 pm to
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...and Hillary and John McCain...


Yes, and the Bush family too
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5120 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:13 pm to
There was no nation of Palestine. Israel and Egypt both agree that.

Again, much of this Jew hate is from Islamic sympathizing who don’t know history.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27182 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:14 pm to
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What if those "Islamists" are actually just a creation of Israel (and the CIA)?


Changes nothing. If the CIA created a monster. It is still good to rid the earth of that monster.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50513 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Yes, and the Bush family too




and many other neocons

funny how most neocons are chickenhawks, meaning they never served a day in the military and yet want to send other people's kids to die.

I think John Bolton is the only neocon I can remember who actually served in the military, so at least he has half a leg to stand on
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5579 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:19 pm to
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might wanna start here


Looks like part of a bible that is not the bible of Christians.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
10012 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:25 pm to
There is no biblical evidence for how church services are conducted today. Nowhere does it say you need a choir and a preacher. It just says gather together which sounds more informal than what we have evolved into.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1715 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:25 pm to
The biblical argument is quite simple. Yahweh made a covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (who was given the name Israel). Either that covenant is still in effect or it isn’t. If it’s still in effect, then Christians would be wise to honor Israel with our prayers and support. If the covenant isn’t in effect or the promises made to Israel have been fulfilled in the New Testament church, then Israel is simply a democratic ally in a difficult region.
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