I understand sketchy sources are sometimes used to obtain warrants

This is what I've been saying

The left is now 100% on record as supporting domestic political espionage

No matter how you cut it the FBI didn't include evidence to the contrary (Steel's attitude towards Trump, Fusion GPS having political ties to Hillary, etc) to the courts, they lied by omission.

Fake news leftist-biased MSM love ‘em some Dirty Democrat Dossier, because they ARE Dirty Democrats who helped create and promote the Dossier.

DNC/MSM Political Complex must die!

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Right a "sketchy" source and a completely and knowingly fabricated source or two completely different things. Trying to pass this off as just sketchy is completely disengenous.

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This statement is based upon two assumptions, neither of which is based in reality. The first is that the Steele memo is false. That is not demonstrated. The memo doesn’t assert that. Read the memo, that is not there. The second is that the people requesting the surveillance KNEW it was false at the time. The memo doesn’t say that.

What y’all also can’t explain is if this was some grand anti republican theory, why did the Trump administration renew and continue the surveillance? The memo doesn’t say.

Outright lies =/= sketchy sources. This dossier is nothing but made up bullshite, and the scumbags who are behind it are traitors and should be treated as such.

Lock 'em up!!!!!

MAGA

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The first is that the Steele memo is false. That is not demonstrated.

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BS!
The burden is not on the accused to disprove assertions.
The burden is some semblance of verification of accusations in the first place.

In the case of Steele's garbage there is NO VERIFICATION.
None!

I know that standard is hard on the "NickyHaley-Played-Prostitute-With-Trump", "UVA-Rape-Culture", "Hands-Up-Don't-Shoot" crowd. TOUGH!

That's really what I'm getting at here. Maybe the left can explain when it's okay to receive a warrant in this fact pattern:

I'm running for office against an opponent of Middle Eastern origin. Said opponent's family still lives in the Middle East in an area known for harboring radical Sunni Islamists from time to time. I pay a foreign intelligence professional to gather information on my opponent concerning ties to Sunni Islamist radicalism. Oh, I forgot to mention the guy I paid is on the record saying he hates my opponent and views his candidacy as a threat. Said foreign intelligence professional provides me with a dossier (in exchange for my payment, mind you) which just so happens to allege exactly what I was hoping it would allege.

I can employ our intelligence apparatus to spy on my opponent?

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This statement is based upon two assumptions, neither of which is based in reality. The first is that the Steele memo is false. That is not demonstrated. The memo doesn’t assert that. Read the memo, that is not there. The second is that the people requesting the surveillance KNEW it was false at the time. The memo doesn’t say that.

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1. The first two attempts to get a warrant were denied. (before the Dossier was created)

2. Then the warrant was approved. The difference was the Dossier, which was told as in its “infancy” with regards to trying to corroborate.

3. They had to use circular credibility (Steele blabs to Isikoff at Yahoo) just to fake some credibility for the Dossier

4. Comey then takes the Dossier to Trump and shows it to him, telling him it’s “salacious and unverified”, meaning he used an unverified document for the earlier warrant.

5. Steele testified in the UK that he never actually met any first-hand sources and doesn’t know who any of them are. All of his sources were second or third hand, and he refused to even name those supposed sources.

Think about that, total grapevine rumor mill claims and stories that are all 100% impossible to actually verify because there’s not even ONE first-hand source that’s known. 32 pages and nearly 60 claims/accusations/stories and not a single one has a first-hand source the FBI can try to track down, nor do they know a single name of any second or third-hand source to try and track them down.

The only things the FBI could verify in this whole document is that Page was in Moscow once, but well before he was part of the campaign, and he was there for an energy conference on legitimate business. And, Michael Cohen has never been to Prague, and Trump did not stay in the Moscow Ritz when it claims he did to hire prostitutes to piss on a bed.

The FBI called this “minimal verification”. And still used it.

This isn’t how shite should work. And you can’t use the argument that we don’t know if it’s true or not. You can’t use unverified information, PERIOD.

And you can’t use the same source to reinforce credibility for itself. The Dossier was Steele. The Yahoo article was Steele. And then omit from the FISA application that they are the same freaking source. That is a very clear attempt to fabricate credibility and deceive the judge.

This alone confirms there was a concerted effort to obfuscate and illegally obtain a warrant. There’s no way around it.

And again, this was managed by the same group of people who wrote an exoneration letter before they even conducted an investigation for a previous case.

We already know these people are not beyond reproach and will act unethical.

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The burden is not on the accused to disprove assertions. The burden is some semblance of verification of accusations in the first place.

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You’re conflating multiple legal processes.