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re: I thought Ukraine was winning?
Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:56 pm to John Barron
Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:56 pm to John Barron
I see this stat often repeated in media but I have not be able to find a source.
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:57 pm to Sofaking2
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I feel really bad for the soldiers on the front lines. Nobody gives a shite about them.
This can definitely be said about Ukraine and the Ukraine supporters. They are the ones primarily responsible for the loss of life in this conflict. There was never any chance for Ukraine to win.
This post was edited on 11/28/24 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:59 pm to thebigmuffaletta
None of the blue and yellow face sticker wearers on here have ever once explained why the US needed to spend one red cent on this conflict while Western Europe barely lifted a finger.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:00 pm to imjustafatkid
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There was never any chance for Ukraine to win.
The war is not over.
And if you think Trump is going to just pull the rug right out from under Ukraine as soon as he gets into office you're crazy. It's obvious Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine but he is going to attempt to mediate a peace between Russia and Ukraine first.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
This number has been confirmed by almost everyone. Here is a former Pentagon advisor. That's why Ukraine is losing the War. Russia has the manpower and artillery advantage by a significant margin
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It's obvious Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine but he is going to attempt to mediate a peace between Russia and Ukraine first.
This is easily obtainable and, if it does not happen, Russia nor Trump will be the reason.
This post was edited on 11/28/24 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:07 pm to John Barron
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He eats McDonald's 3 days a week. Only drinks diet cokes according to Dana White. Never Water That's just as bad
Smoking cigars for 40 to 50 years is much worse than McDonalds 3 times a week.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:16 pm to MizzouBS
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Smoking cigars for 40 to 50 years is much worse than McDonalds 3 times a week
That would depend on the amount of Cigars. If someone put a gun to my head and told me I had to eat McDonald's 3x a week and drink nothing but diet coke or smoke 1 cigar a week. I am smoking the cigar. You don't know how many cigars Putin smokes. He could do it once a month for all you know
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:18 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Trump will broker a deal with a split Ukraine that allows Russia to proclaim victory and the West to deescalate.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:18 pm to RollTide1987
Looks like Trump told South Korea they couldn't sell military equipment to Ukraine. Just 2 months ago South Korea was saying they would sell aide to Ukraine
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:21 pm to RollTide1987
He has a day to close the deal.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:26 pm to hogcard1964
How many biolabs has Russia uncovered ??!
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:27 pm to hogcard1964
I agree but maybe he got some new info now that he has access to it. He may realize now we gotta help Ukraine. We don’t know what goes on behind the closed doors.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:27 pm to John Barron
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The side that has a artillery advantage of 10:1(Russia) is killing more soldiers than the other side.
The side on the offense always loses more than the side on defense.
Additionally referring to "lost" in casualty numbers is not very telling as wounded can refer to everything from a minor shrapnel cut or tear gas inhalation to traumatic non recoverable injuries.
Ukraine has 60-100k killed Russia 120-150k killed.
WIA is going to run 3-5x higher, and none of us have insight into what the return to action rates are as well as combat effectiveness is of those units are.
Anyone who speaks with such high confidence in a chaotic complex situation is not being realistic.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:33 pm to Narax
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The side on the offense always loses more than the side on defense.
Incorrect. That statement is not logical. Whether attacking or defending if your opponent has a 10 :1 artillery advantage you are going to lose more soldiers.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:33 pm to John Barron
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Here is a former Pentagon advisor.
There are a million former Pentagon advisors (no seriously).
It's like the 55 Intel people who said Hunter's laptop wasn't real.
Or the ex Military UFO experts.
Collection of random losers trying to get paid to make claims they have no insight into.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:36 pm to John Barron
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Incorrect. That statement is not logical. Whether attacking or defending if your opponent has a 10 :1 artillery advantage you are going to lose more soldiers.
That's not how that logically works, the defender can shoot 10k shells and cause 10k casualties, 8k from Artillery.
The Attacker can shoot 100k shells and cause 5k casualties, 4k from Artillery.
In both cases Arty caused 80% of casualties.
The attacker shoots 10x more
Defender causes 2x casualties.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:37 pm to Narax
How about a current US General. This information is readily available by a number of sources. You choose to ignore it.
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:37 pm to Narax
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The side on the offense always loses more than the side on defense.
That's only mostly true not always true. The great equalizer here is Russias enormous artillery advantage and their willing to go slow and methodical and use it. Therefore at best it's equal though more likely even in Russia's advantage. We will know more though after Ukraine's defeat
This post was edited on 11/28/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:40 pm to Narax
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That's not how that logically works, the defender can shoot 10k shells and cause 10k casualties, 8k from Artillery.
Your make believe numbers are a made up fantasy. Realistically Russia pummels Ukraine with artillery and advances when Ukraine has barely anyone left in the area
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