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re: I support the government making lists of all eligible voters & voter ID… IF

Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:38 pm to
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A few dumbasses voting isn’t worth taking power from the people. As long as dumbasses remain proportionally low, engineering higher participation in democracy cultivates a stronger democracy.

Well herein lies the problem. We have a hell of a lot more than a “few dumbasses” already voting. We don’t need to add to the problem.

You’re literally arguing that we would have a more efficient, honest and functional government if more uninformed voters voted for our leaders.

I’m arguing the opposite. Informed and intelligent people make better decisions in leadership.

I guess you think the Congressional Black Caucus is the standard we should be striving for. Not me.

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." This is where we are now, and with your idiotic proposal, it would only escalate it.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 1:13 pm
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20074 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:39 pm to
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I support the government making lists

Stopped right there. Big NOPE
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9453 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:41 pm to
Government lists arent for me. I want less federal government, and I want them to know as little about me as possible. Pretty much the standard Conservative take prior to Bush.

Let states handle their stuff and keep the fed out as much as possible. They mess up everything they touch.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:41 pm to
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You’re literally arguing that we would have a more efficient, honest and functional government if more uninformed voters voted for our leaders.

Who said anything about uninformed? You think everyone who ever skipped an election was uninformed?
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Stopped right there. Big NOPE

See Trump’s recent EO.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Let states handle their stuff and keep the fed out as much as possible. They mess up everything they touch.

See Trump’s recent EO.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20074 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:45 pm to
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See Trump’s recent EO.

Contact me when it actually happens.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9453 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:46 pm to
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You’re allowed to submit a blank ballot. It just encourages participation. The penalties are mostly fines that would help with federal debt. It works.

Australia has 90% turnout in most elections, and that’s awesome.

Really a weak argument man. It’s like saying no to purging rolls because registration is inconvenient.


but thats still forcing someone to do something, and thus no longer a right. Incredibly unamerican
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:47 pm to
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How is representative democracy supposed to work?
A representative democracy depends on an informed voting population making informed decisions on who to vote for to represent them.

Not, “I voting for him because he’s for more welfare” or “I’m voting for her because she’s a woman” or “I’m voting for him become he seems nice.”

That’s how we get the retards in Congress that we have now.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9453 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:48 pm to
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See Trump’s recent EO.


Another thing that will get struck down by courst...as it should. MAGA will cry and claim lawfare and bash the judges. Those judges will be correct.


The president cannot just decree certain things. He loves to use EO's instead of the co equal branch that was designed to create laws. Sad thing is "conservatives" eat it up, but its not a conservative move at all.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:49 pm to
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Contact me when it actually happens.

It’s on the election integrity agenda. The order was issued. You might be right, but they’re trying.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
606 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:52 pm to
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Also like Australia where the penalty is just a $20 fine until repeat offenses where it increases. They have 90% turnout.


That's gonna be a no from me baw
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3216 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:52 pm to
Still waiting for you to define eligible with respect to voters.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:54 pm to
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That's gonna be a no from me baw

That’s your opinion & that’s fine. I just wanted some clarity on whether or not MAGA wanted less eligible US citizens to vote, and I got my answer.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10689 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Stopped right there. Big NOPE


He does not support that. He is "cleverly" opposing voter ID by making false requirements of unrelated shite that must go with it.

I am surprised you don't recognize the technique.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Still waiting for you to define eligible with respect to voters.

I don’t need to define eligible voters for you because it’s not a hypothetical. We have established voter eligibility parameters in the USA, and I’ve made no argument to change them.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:58 pm to
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He does not support that. He is "cleverly" opposing voter ID by making false requirements of unrelated shite that must go with it.

I’m not opposing voter ID on its face or on its own. I’m concerned about MAGA’s ideology on voting in general & some of the trending opinions overlapping election integrity.

A govt list of eligible voters is one of the proposals here, and if we have a list then automatic registration is very easily achievable.
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3216 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 1:03 pm to
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I don’t need to define eligible voters for you because it’s not a hypothetical. We have established voter eligibility parameters in the USA, and I’ve made no argument to change them.

Of course you don’t. If you did, it’d blow up your entire canard. Eligibility describes the attributes that allow someone to vote. This entails that we don’t let people vote… already.

Go spin your wheels now. Your entire position is a contradiction.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 1:06 pm to
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There it is. Not election integrity. Not illegal immigrants. But less eligible US citizens voting.
Yes, less uninformed retards voting. Am I supposed to be ashamed of this? Because I’m not. I’m adamant about it.

Imagine this scenario: You run a business. 100 employees. Half of them are wage employees that only do the bare minimum at work and 30 of them are good employees and do a good job. The other 20 are lower level and upper level supervisors and managers.

You tell them that you are retiring and you’ll allow them to vote for an employee at the company to take your place. Anyone can “run” for the position and all employees will vote.

E’beeteesha, a wage employee decides to run and promises all the wage employees that they will get huge raises if she wins.

Paul, an upper level supervisor also runs and says that he can’t give huge wage increases because the company would end up losing money and go bankrupt.

Who do you think is going to win that “election?” What will eventually happen to the company after E’beeteesha wins?

This is how our country is currently being run.

Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Of course you don’t. If you did, it’d blow up your entire canard. Eligibility describes the attributes that allow someone to vote. This entails that we don’t let people vote… already.

You have to be of age and a US citizen… those are the requirements.

Is there a problem?
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