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re: I stand corrected on Secret Service sniper team. *Neither sniper on barn made kill shot*

Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21451 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:32 pm to
I found the video I was looking for. The doctor on the scene 100 percent points to the lower left side of the skull as the place where the victim was shot. No way in hell the assassin shot a guy in front and to his left on the left side of his skull. No fricking way. That man was hit by the SS sniper who was clearly startled on the roof

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This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:32 pm to
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anyone who calls themselves a swat sniper loves to talk about how badass they are. I’ve shot with some before…..,,i was never impressed. I’ve shot with guys that were military…..they were the real deal…..and never talked about it.


That’s a whole lot of painting with a broad brush.

The VAST majority of snipers on LEO SWAT teams ARE former military.



Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:36 pm to
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That man was hit by the SS sniper who was clearly startled on the roof


Sadly, it looks like you’re right. Lord have mercy on all innocent folks hurt by this.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:36 pm to
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How would the shooter know to go up on a building that should have been 100% secured unless they had inside information?


This is a good question
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8610 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:37 pm to
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What the frick are you talking about?


You said the guy interviewed by the BBC was lying about what he saw and lo and behold now there is videos and still shots showing EXACTLY what he described. Care to retract?
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4815 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:37 pm to
That last shot when the woman yells sounds like it went through the assassins head and hit the metal roof, maybe another clue as to where the shot came from
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:38 pm to
looks like Trump was def shot at first. You can see him grab his ear first shot.
Posted by beachtiger777
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
666 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:45 pm to
And how does someone on a roof shoot someone on top of stands and not with the bullet going on a downwards trajectory and it be a person even or below trump.the person killed in stands was at top left of stands above trump.also just seen a person next to guy shot in stands say he thought someone was shooting from behind the stands.
There is more then one shooter but I'm no expert for sure
Posted by beachtiger777
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
666 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:48 pm to
That's exactly what I thought either there was 2nd shooter or guy in stands was shot from ss
Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:50 pm to
Definitely a bunch of conflicting info and in the “fog of war” it’s expected.

More video from bystanders will come out and hopefully govt folks show integrity and not hide/stifle facts.

One thing I’m sure of, the two SS snipers on barn didn’t shoot assassin on the roof and like others have said, highly likely they may have shot someone in crowd while recoiling from incoming fire.
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
11654 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:54 pm to
I’m enjoying reading your posts. It’s pretty obvious SS shite the bed hard. It’s extremely concerning.
Posted by beachtiger777
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
666 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:56 pm to
If you look at over head Google shot there is a a high arse water tower you should have a sniper at looking straight down at all them buildings including stage where trump was
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
10282 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:03 am to
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hopefully govt folks show integrity and not hide/stifle facts


Very unlikely!
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21451 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:05 am to
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That's exactly what I thought either there was 2nd shooter or guy in stands was shot from ss


If we didn’t have conclusive video of the Ss sniper clearly being startled and dropping the barrel of his rifle and clearly pulling it out of position in the process who shot the victim would be much harder to explain… the doctor’s account is telling for a number of reasons. It puts the wound on the side of the head in the line of fire of the SS. More importantly and overlooked is how he described the wound. He said there was visible brain matter which to me indicates a high powered round hit him in the head.
Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:09 am to
Thank you buddy. I know I appreciate it when folks with experience/knowledge on a subject share their insights.

I don’t know much, but I do know LE/military tactics and procedures.

There’s a saying re: protective events, a bad guy only has to be right 1% of the time to cause havoc but LE has to be right 100% of the time to stop it.

On this occasion, there appears to be many basic fail points leading to tragedy.
Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:29 am to
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He said there was visible brain matter which to me indicates a high powered round hit him in the head.


A 5.56 round can do a number on an unprotected dome as well, but you make several good points.
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4815 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:31 am to
A little more on the logistics…

Trump was five minutes into his speech:

Minutes 1 through 3:The assassin was seen army crawling on the roof and getting into position. He appears to hang out at the eave of the backside of roof out of the view of counter snipers.

Minute 4: The assassin was observing Trump’s position and trying to effectively lock on to his target under the stress of people drawing attention to him.

Minute 5: The assassin likely had a good enough aim on his target but the kill shot was thwarted by Trump turning his head and the shouts getting louder regarding his position.

This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12703 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:33 am to
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He and his relatives quickly ducked down to the ground as one Secret Service member allegedly discharged his weapon several times in the direction of the shooter.”


That would have been something if someone in the crowd would have smoked the shooter before the SS even gotten their guns out of their holsters.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21236 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:39 am to
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I’m enjoying reading your posts. It’s pretty obvious SS shite the bed hard. It’s extremely concerning.
Go look at a map of the shooting. Anyone looking at it would guess a sniper would set up on the exact roof the shooter chose. The Secret Service decided to leave that roof open? What was the advantage to ignoring that rooftop?
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:41 am to
I've been wondering about the water tower since they first showed the rooftops. Its an obvious vantage point to see everything in that area.

Why was SS not on the bottling plant roof?

Were they on the water tower? If so, how did they miss the guy with a rifle crawling up on a roof right under them? If not, why were TWO obvious elevated, line of sight positions overlooked by SS?
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