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re: I reject the idea that young adults/millennials “have it harder” than boomers at that age

Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:29 pm to
So much this. It’s ok to admit that not all of millennials’ suffering is self-inflicted, and that government policy changes are needed to address their concerns. Simply shrugging off their grievances as all being the result of an entitlement mindset or just being “soft” serves only to alienate millennial voters and drive them into the arms of socialist sirens like Bernie Sanders who at least promise them the appearance of relief from some of the biggest symptoms that plague them.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:30 pm to
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So what should I do in the mean time just sit on my hands while I wait on my results which only license me in one state? Should I just contend myself with a part time job and working odd construction jobs and musician gigs and
If Inwere you... If have some sorta f*ckoff job with no responsibilities that paid just enough for beer money and enjoy the f*ck outta life for a while.

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just hope that law firms start hiring?
Why hell aren’t you talking to firms NOW?
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:32 pm to
I am. Most aren’t hiring, and government organizations require I already have my license before applying.

I’ve been applying to damn near every job I’m even remotely qualified to work at worldwide for the past 9 months while having also taken the bar exam during that time.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:33 pm to
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A BS in biology is the most common degree in medical school and you think it “screams couldn’t get into med school”.
That isn’t what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that some with a Biology degree, is NOT in medical school, and applying for jobs that a tech school qualifies you for, doesn’t look like a huge success. Nor skilled in any particular area.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:33 pm to
I disagree the boomers had the WW2 generation holding the fort down while they grew up. Also this country wasn’t the overpopulated turd pile it is now back when the boomers grew up.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:34 pm to
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entitlement


The generation currently collecting SS bitching about the “entitled” is the definition of irony.

Inb4 SS isn’t an entitlement or welfare
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:39 pm to
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Must be some new math I am not familiar with.
Or you didn’t read my whole post.


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That's the choice Millennials face: per square real estate has rocketed up in real terms. The difference in interest rates isn't going to make up that difference.
Of course it’s not. Hats why when I was fresh out of school and everyone was telling me “you gotta buy a house thininteret rates are so low”. I didn’t bite. But apparently it was easy for me to buy a home I just didn’t know it.

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But to ignore that Millennials, on aggregate, have had a shittier hand dealt to them than their parents is to ignore every piece of hard data - economic, QoL, you name it - out there that suggests that to be the truth.
Its easy to ingnore because it isn’t true.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 3:41 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:41 pm to
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entitlement


The generation currently collecting SS bitching about the “entitled” is the definition of irony.

Inb4 SS isn’t an entitlement or welfare



Yea, what the Boomers, on aggregate, put into Social Security and Medicare and state pensions vs. what they'll get out of it is hilariously and laughably lopsided in their favor.

You want to liberate wealth for Millennials to start businesses and buy homes and every other healthy economic activity? Start with those three millstones.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:41 pm to
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and applying for jobs that a tech school qualifies you for, doesn’t look like a huge success. Nor skilled in any particular area.



..the post referred to a bio degree applying for ...bio research. Not a bio degree applying for tech jobs...

A BS in bio used to suffice for getting a job in research. not anymore, its more difficult and competitive now. Like the poster said what used to just req a bio degree now basically requires a masters. The same education of a BS in BIO wont get you the job it used to, but it will cost significantly more for the degree than it used to though.
Posted by Collegedropout
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:42 pm to
Technology reduces freedom. Destroy technology
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:42 pm to
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And plenty more....


Is voting for the wrong people one?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:42 pm to


1770s/early 1780s- revolution

18 teens- war with Great Britain on our own soil


1860s- civil war.

1870s/1880s- reconstruction era


19 teens- fear of being drafted into WW1. Most people still living in agricultural age with no electricity. Most people still toiled in factories and on farms. Most people walked, rode a bicycle, or traveled by horse and buggy.


1930s- 18-34 year olds had to worry about where their next meal would come from. What utility would be turned off. Would the Great Depression ever end?

1940s- 18-34 year olds had to worry about a war being waged across much of the globe. Constantly fretting the day their draft card was pulled. Families on constant edge of whether or not their son or father would be risking their lives in Europe, North Africa, or the Pacific.

1950s- see above but insert Korea

1960s- see above but insert Vietnam and civil unrest at home and Cold War fear of annihaltion by nuclear war.

1970s- My decade of birth. Personal experience of living in constant uneasiness that we would be attacked by ICBMs. Looked skyward with apprehension at the sound of any plane. Routine bong drills at school.

The people born between the early 80s and today are soft as hell. They have never known real fear or adversity. They live in the most peaceful and prosperous run of decades in our nations history. They are entitled and impatient to have the things previous generations busted their asses for when they turn 22. Luxuries that previous generations began to acquire in their 40s and 50s. They want those things and feel they are entitled to them in their 20s. Their whining and bitching about how hard they have it is comical when compared to the fears and thoughts of the future of people from previous generations. It’s pathetic.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:43 pm to
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Most aren’t hiring, and government organizations require I already have my license before applying.
Got it. Yeah too many lawyers. But you knew that when you started, right?

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I’ve been applying to damn near every job
Ypure doing it wrong. Go meet people. Contact people directly.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:45 pm to
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But to ignore that Millennials, on aggregate, have had a shittier hand dealt to them than their parents is to ignore every piece of hard data - economic, QoL, you name it - out there that suggests that to be the truth.
Its easy to ingnore because it isn’t true.



It is 100%, unassailably, unflinchingly true. In real terms, Millennials have less disposable income, will accumulate less wealth absent some huge and unforeseen GDP growth, have to spend more on necessities, and on and on and on.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:45 pm to
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Inb4 SS isn’t an entitlement or welfare
No. it’s a horrible taking. Part of why people are having a hard time is the government is taking that and giving a near-nil return on it. Milleneals would be better off if they keep their money. Hell the Boomers would have too.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:47 pm to
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into Social Security and Medicare and state pensions vs. what they'll get out of it is hilariously and laughably lopsided in their favor.
You're absolutely correct for two of the three.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:49 pm to
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..the post referred to a bio degree applying for ...bio research. Not a bio degree applying for tech jobs...

Then I misunderstood. My sister is a pathologist FWIW. Their lab would not hire someone with a Biology BS to work there. An experienced histotech is far more qualified.

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A BS in bio used to suffice
And there are people accusing Boomers and gen xers of living in rhe past in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69349 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:51 pm to
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Got it. Yeah too many lawyers. But you knew that when you started, right?


Job prospects weren’t fantastic, but they weren’t that bad when I was applying for law school, and I had a lot of contacts and connections. The field I was in at the time looked like a major downturn and layoffs were just around the corner, and I was right.

Over the last 4 years, the legal job market in this state essentially collapsed, and nearly all of my contacts and connections in firms and state agencies retired and/or closed their practices. I just had really poor timing.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:55 pm to
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It is 100%, unassailably, unflinchingly true. In real terms, Millennials have less disposable income, will accumulate less wealth
If this thread is any indication it’s because they are living in the past. Like I said.. Nigerians have figured this out. Why can l’tan American Milleneals?

Being a failure doesn’t prove anything.

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have to spend more on necessities, and on and on and on.
Who makes them spend more? Have less. (What’s thst Japanese lady?) My grandfather had three shirts. Two pairs of pants. Know a millineal that lives like that? I don’t.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1041 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:57 pm to
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So much this. It’s ok to admit that not all of millennials’ suffering is self-inflicted, and that government policy changes are needed to address their concerns. Simply shrugging off their grievances as all being the result of an entitlement mindset or just being “soft” serves only to alienate millennial voters and drive them into the arms of socialist sirens like Bernie Sanders who at least promise them the appearance of relief from some of the biggest symptoms that plague them.


This is basically true.

I have a friend with a graduate degree in Computer Science and extensive experience in programming but he can't even get a call back from a large tech company like Microsoft. But it's so easy to get a job like that, you can simply teach yourself JavaScript on your phone while barely knowing English and you're making six-figures in Redmond, WA (which depending on the number, could be a decent income or simply the equivalent to $50k in Louisiana)

Oh wait, survivorship bias is an actual thing and cherry picking exceptions doesn't make it the rule. Or maybe my friend just hasn't worked hard enough, maybe instead of four-plus years of school learning JavaScript plus everything else, he should have been learning JavaScript on his phone or something.
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