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re: I hope trump holds this against zelensky

Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:38 am to
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3334 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:38 am to
Youre an idiot. Our own govt has worse intentions for our country than putin
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 9:39 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:39 am to
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Weird seeing people get upset at Ukraine defending itself against an aggressor.


How many more civilians have to die in Ukraine in an unwinnable war for them? They would fold like a cheap suit if the rest of the world wasn't giving them money. Zelenskyy should be brought up for war crimes for what he has done to his country. Dead innocents, towns obliterated. If you can't win, which he can't, then it's time to admit you're fighting a losing battle and try to work out some kind of stability for the people you represent.

Posted by Nomadic Bengal
Member since Jul 2022
3378 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:40 am to
Gatekeeping how a country defends itself from an evil world power.

Amazing work, comrade!
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:40 am to
There is some weird shite going on "over there". Sweden, Finland and now Germany telling their citizens to prepare for war.

AND not one but now two undersea cables have been cut.

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Hours ago we reported an undersea cable between Finland and Germany had been cut; now ANOTHER undersea cable has also been cut.

A communication cable running along the bottom of the Baltic Sea between Lithuania and Sweden has been cut.

This was reported by Andrius Šemeškevicius, a representative of the telecommunications company Telia Lietuva.

“The cable was damaged. The systems report that we have lost communication.”

The cable rupture is more likely to be the result of an intentional act than an accident, Tapio Frantti, professor of cybersecurity at the University of Jyväskylä, told Yle.


And yesterday on Napolitano's show Alastair Crooke said he thinks Israel is going to escalate bigly so that Netanyahu doesn't have to appear in court

The world is on fire and we can't see the smoke from here.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26087 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:42 am to
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people appear to be openly rooting for Russia


frick Russia. frick Ukraine too. I don’t want to be part of a fricking war and I really don’t want us taking action to usher in WWIII.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:43 am to
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Yeah. Because history has shown us time and time again, that backing down and giving something up to an aggressor, solves everything. If China invaded the US, you think we should just back down and give into the Chinese demands, just so Americans don’t die?


History has also taught us you do not provoke a nuclear power and threaten their boarders.
NATO in 1995


Nato 2024


Do you think Russians cannot read a map? Russians for the past 20 years you have seen NATO expansion and military build up on your border. They said very simply UKraine was a step to far. So explain to me who has been the aggressor in this?

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Yeah that evil and aggressive NATO. They were about to invade Russia and begin a march to Moscow!! Thank God Lord Putin came in and invaded Ukraine to save the day!!


This very statement tells me you do not understand the Russians, not Putain, Russians. You should go watch Carlson's interview with the Polish President, he explains how Russia interprets NATO build up and what is most important to the Russian people. He knows them a hell of a lot better than any of us.

The problem is warhawk, neocons are supremely arrogant in their beliefs that Russia will never use nuclear weapons. They are wrong. They are projecting their beliefs onto Russians. Because they would never use them they assume Russian will not. That is a dangerous and stupid calculation.

This idea that Russia is going to try and march across Europe like Hitler did is a neocon, war monger's wet dream.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36475 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:45 am to
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Why does none of these war hawks want to admit this war was caused by NATO's continued expansion?



So if BRICS expands to Mexico or Cuba then we have the right to invade Mexico or Cuba?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:46 am to
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Defense isn’t attacking another country you idiot


It's a fricking war. That Putin started.

You idiot.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
18342 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:46 am to
Maybe Putin, will drop a nuke on your trailer.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93758 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:46 am to
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It's a fricking war. That Putin started.

You idiot.


No it seems you are the idiot which is a common theme with you
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30917 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:48 am to
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Weird seeing leftists cheer for WW3 after being anti-war all those years.


and were Russian apologist. I remember Hillary with the misspelled "reset" button and Obama with the "tell Vlad I will have more flexibility after the election" message he asked Medvedev to relay.

As a reminder Russia expanded territory while Bush, Obama, and Biden were in office. That's something that didn't happen while Trump was in office.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30917 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:50 am to
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So if BRICS expands to Mexico or Cuba then we have the right to invade Mexico or Cuba?


Did BRICS sign a treaty saying that wouldn't?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:50 am to
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So if BRICS expands to Mexico or Cuba then we have the right to invade Mexico or Cuba?


These are not equivalents; and its fictious. These simple moral equivalents may sound good on a forum, but are irrelevant to the real world. Simply dismissing the reasons Russia did what it did is simply trying to pull ignore the provocation. Russia's invasion of UK under Obama's was due to expansion of NATO. And Biden decided to push into UK because Blackrock wanted its mineral wealth.

Explain to me the strategic US value to having UK in NATO?
Posted by Barbados
Member since Nov 2024
2089 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:51 am to
Ukraine being one of the most corrupt countries and involving itself in money laundering for the west is why we are here.

Zelensky is a major player in this space.

Ukraine can get fricked,
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66830 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:52 am to
Don't forget Obama laughing at Romney and telling him the '80's want their foreign policy back.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:57 am to
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No it seems you are the idiot which is a common theme with you


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SDVTiger


Lol. There's an opinion that means nothing.

Keep on Culting, dipshit.
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
2170 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:00 am to
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Weird seeing leftists cheer for WW3 after being anti-war all those years.


Yes it is.

I remember marching in the Veteran’s Day parade in Birmingham, AL, in 1973, and the leftists were spitting on us and calling us pigs and baby killers.

My… how things have changed.
/smh
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8327 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:01 am to
Make Bullying Great Again
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3869 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:01 am to
Russia doesn't get to say who can or can't join NATO (no matter how poorly it is ran). Them not liking their neighbors joining is a them problem, maybe don't be oppressive, genocidal A -Holes for the last century and a half. War is terrible and I hope Trump negotiates a peace on Day 1 but not at Ukraine's expense. If the Russians won't back down and leave then the Uke's should fight as long as they have the will power. Go guerrilla warfare if they have to and bleed the Russians dry over years.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 10:04 am
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16724 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:06 am to
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Weird seeing people get upset at Ukraine defending itself against an aggressor.


Most dont care if they defend themselves. We just shouldnt get involved (Including giving\selling weapons). Same with Israel\Lebanon|gaza. And Syria.

We need to stop being the worlds police force. If it doesnt DIRECTLY affect us we should stay out of the mess.
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