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re: I have left the Democratic Party **Update: pg 6. Toddy is fed up with the Dems too.

Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33024 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:17 pm to
I absolutely believe there will be Dems voting for Trump. I don’t believe that a bunch of Dems from New York who didn’t vote for him last time will vote for him in 2020. Not that many. Not enough.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

I have left the Democratic Party


I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:04 pm to
That is good to hear Toddy. I hope that deep down inside you know that most of us who don’t vote for progressives couldn’t give a damn if you are gay. There will always be a hateful fringe on ( both Right leaning and left leaning)that we all have to ignore, but not silence. I am glad to know that you will be more of a cautious ally rather than a full fledged progressive.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

absolutely believe there will be Dems voting for Trump. I don’t believe that a bunch of Dems from New York who didn’t vote for him last time will vote for him in 2020. Not that many. Not enough.

Oh I don’t know that many people, but some of them are the types that were really, really pissed when he won in 2016 and they have completely given up on the dem party. These are liberals in NYC, it won’t make a difference here but if these people are turning to Trump then a lot more dems across the country are turning to Trump. Trump will win in a landslide. There are more than you think, I’m one of them.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.

Holy frick, I never thought I’d see the day you turn on the dem party.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:07 pm to
How many of your fellow friend dems are also this discouraged by the dem party?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76378 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 12:37 am to
quote:

I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.


quote:

Toddy


Whoa
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55497 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 2:43 am to
quote:

Toddy


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42644 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 2:51 am to
You ned to stop calling them the Democratic party - they are the DEMOCRAT party - there is no element of 'democracy' in their makeup.

there is no "Democratic Party" = their name is "Democrat Party"

to put the 'ic' on the end of their name changes the meaning to being an adjective rather than a name.
Posted by TunaTrip
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2019
429 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:04 am to
Same and for the exact same reasons. Two weeks ago I received my confirmation of party change from Democrat to Independent, from the Secretary of State.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:20 am to
Donald Trump doesn't need a single NY vote.

Not one.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:24 am to
Welcome to Team America.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3150 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:48 am to
quote:
I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.


quote:
Toddy


Whoa

Whoa of Whoa’s INDEED. If this is true, this is a pretty good litmus test for how badly the Commie’s I mean Democrat’s, have screwed the pooch.

Personally, my wife(no pics) realllly dislikes Donald Trump, but even she is ALL SET with the Democrats. Not to mention they have been fricking with her daytime soap, which I think will cost the Dem’s in THAT demographic as well.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140570 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:57 am to

I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
quote:

I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.


We have the best gays.

But seriously Toddy. If you are seeing this massive change in the Democratic Party then there is hope that another moderate party may form one we can work with and actually vote for.

I love the new Toddy.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.


Well said. Man I tried for years to hold on. But I see what’s coming up and I want nothing to do with it.

Sounds like you are wrestling with the idea to leave too. Trust me, there is a peace that comes from looking yourself in the mirror and knowing you did the right thing. I may never work in politics/govt again, but I am staying true to my principles.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:09 am to
quote:

How many of your fellow friend dems are also this discouraged by the dem party?


Many. The Congressman from from NJ won’t be the last high profile person to leave the party. But many from the rank and file are leaving and will leave soon.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Same and for the exact same reasons. Two weeks ago I received my confirmation of party change from Democrat to Independent, from the Secretary of State.


Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Welcome to Team America.


Ive always put my country first.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:13 am to
Toddy is absolutely correct. If they have lost him it does show how awful that party has become
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11465 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:15 am to
quote:

I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.


Oh Lawd! If Toddy is leaving the plantation, that can only mean the Democrat Party is dead! Who is the lone hold out here, that wants to defend this party now?
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