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re: I have left the Democratic Party **Update: pg 6. Toddy is fed up with the Dems too.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:17 pm to Ted2010
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:17 pm to Ted2010
I absolutely believe there will be Dems voting for Trump. I don’t believe that a bunch of Dems from New York who didn’t vote for him last time will vote for him in 2020. Not that many. Not enough.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:35 pm to Ted2010
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I have left the Democratic Party
I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:04 pm to Toddy
That is good to hear Toddy. I hope that deep down inside you know that most of us who don’t vote for progressives couldn’t give a damn if you are gay. There will always be a hateful fringe on ( both Right leaning and left leaning)that we all have to ignore, but not silence. I am glad to know that you will be more of a cautious ally rather than a full fledged progressive.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:05 pm to LSUGrrrl
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absolutely believe there will be Dems voting for Trump. I don’t believe that a bunch of Dems from New York who didn’t vote for him last time will vote for him in 2020. Not that many. Not enough.
Oh I don’t know that many people, but some of them are the types that were really, really pissed when he won in 2016 and they have completely given up on the dem party. These are liberals in NYC, it won’t make a difference here but if these people are turning to Trump then a lot more dems across the country are turning to Trump. Trump will win in a landslide. There are more than you think, I’m one of them.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:06 pm to Toddy
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I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
Holy frick, I never thought I’d see the day you turn on the dem party.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:07 pm to Ted2010
How many of your fellow friend dems are also this discouraged by the dem party?
Posted on 12/19/19 at 12:37 am to Toddy
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I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
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Toddy
Whoa
Posted on 12/19/19 at 2:51 am to Ted2010
You ned to stop calling them the Democratic party - they are the DEMOCRAT party - there is no element of 'democracy' in their makeup.
there is no "Democratic Party" = their name is "Democrat Party"
to put the 'ic' on the end of their name changes the meaning to being an adjective rather than a name.
there is no "Democratic Party" = their name is "Democrat Party"
to put the 'ic' on the end of their name changes the meaning to being an adjective rather than a name.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:04 am to Ted2010
Same and for the exact same reasons. Two weeks ago I received my confirmation of party change from Democrat to Independent, from the Secretary of State.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:20 am to LSUGrrrl
Donald Trump doesn't need a single NY vote.
Not one.
Not one.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:48 am to biglego
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I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
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Toddy
Whoa
Whoa of Whoa’s INDEED. If this is true, this is a pretty good litmus test for how badly the Commie’s I mean Democrat’s, have screwed the pooch.
Personally, my wife(no pics) realllly dislikes Donald Trump, but even she is ALL SET with the Democrats. Not to mention they have been fricking with her daytime soap, which I think will cost the Dem’s in THAT demographic as well.
I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
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Toddy
Whoa
Whoa of Whoa’s INDEED. If this is true, this is a pretty good litmus test for how badly the Commie’s I mean Democrat’s, have screwed the pooch.
Personally, my wife(no pics) realllly dislikes Donald Trump, but even she is ALL SET with the Democrats. Not to mention they have been fricking with her daytime soap, which I think will cost the Dem’s in THAT demographic as well.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:57 am to Toddy
I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
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I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
We have the best gays.
But seriously Toddy. If you are seeing this massive change in the Democratic Party then there is hope that another moderate party may form one we can work with and actually vote for.
I love the new Toddy.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:07 am to Toddy
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I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
Well said. Man I tried for years to hold on. But I see what’s coming up and I want nothing to do with it.
Sounds like you are wrestling with the idea to leave too. Trust me, there is a peace that comes from looking yourself in the mirror and knowing you did the right thing. I may never work in politics/govt again, but I am staying true to my principles.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:09 am to Malik Agar
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How many of your fellow friend dems are also this discouraged by the dem party?
Many. The Congressman from from NJ won’t be the last high profile person to leave the party. But many from the rank and file are leaving and will leave soon.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:09 am to TunaTrip
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Same and for the exact same reasons. Two weeks ago I received my confirmation of party change from Democrat to Independent, from the Secretary of State.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:10 am to Dead End
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Welcome to Team America.
Ive always put my country first.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:13 am to roadGator
Toddy is absolutely correct. If they have lost him it does show how awful that party has become
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:15 am to Toddy
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I empathize completely. The younger people gaining power are too extreme to even justify or defend. This transgender mess, electing American hating Muslims,pronoun stupidity, trying to erase history by tearing down monuments. It's scary and I want no part of it. I'm about to leave myself. I hate this new breed of Democratic activist. Disgusting and I'm not going to be associated with it.
Oh Lawd! If Toddy is leaving the plantation, that can only mean the Democrat Party is dead! Who is the lone hold out here, that wants to defend this party now?
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