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re: I have come to realize that 2020 was a necessary evil…
Posted on 10/27/24 at 8:40 am to Jack Bauers HnK
Posted on 10/27/24 at 8:40 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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Michelle’s statement is consistent with the everything else they see.
This is a very clear, simple, and lucid explanation that I sometimes lose sight of.
My mother is in her late 70’s and looks so uncomfortable when politics comes up…because she gets everything from CNN and MSNBC…and she has been taught that any other outlet is alternative, conspiracy theory-laden, hate-fueled propaganda.
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Posted on 10/27/24 at 8:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I realize it just went right over your head, but the message is not geared towards those of us who could see this in 2020.
Thats so fricking dumb.
Did y'all really need 2020 to know we were spending ourselves into inflation and shutting down businesses would lead to shortages and other problems?
It is towards the ones that blindly supported biden because they truly believed that Trump was a threat to democracy.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:03 am to GusAU
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It is towards the ones that blindly supported biden
The people who would put another shutdown on us in a heartbeat?
They learned nothing, except Republicans can be easily manipulated into paying them.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:04 am to ruzil
Probably why GHWB was the only GOP candidate not labeled as Hitler-like or fascist
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 9:05 am
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
In part, yes. But Trump never went along with mandated compliance.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:15 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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But Trump never went along with mandated compliance.
He was all over the Covid relief bill which enabled most of this bullshite.
It also bailed out those who did shut down and allowed elections to be performed by mail.
Trump got played badly in 2020, the entire year.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He was all over the Covid relief bill which enabled most of this bullshite.
It also bailed out those who did shut down and allowed elections to be performed by mail.
Trump got played badly in 2020, the entire year.
Then either stand up and say you are voting against him or shut the frick up.
NOTHING you say makes him worse than Kamala so NOTHING you say matters, especially for the next 10 days.
We don't have some super duper Alaskan Republican like Lisa Murkowski to vote for.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:18 am to RohanGonzales
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Then either stand up and say you are voting against him or shut the frick up.
Why? You terrified of hearing how the Democrats played this guy "standing between you and them?"
You bitches have excused Trumps involvement in Covid so long I cant tell the difference between yalls lies and the progressives. I expect Democrats to do stupid shite, but I get more angry when "republicans" do.
They 'll do it again. Just watch.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 9:22 am
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:37 am to LSUAngelHere1
I have a post that pretty much mirrors this post.
It exposed all of the evils the world wanted to bamboozle us with and Elon saved free speech with buying Twitter.
Now Trump can come in and extinguish this political woke nonsense.
It exposed all of the evils the world wanted to bamboozle us with and Elon saved free speech with buying Twitter.
Now Trump can come in and extinguish this political woke nonsense.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Did y'all really need 2020 to know we were spending ourselves into inflation and shutting down businesses would lead to shortages and other problems?
Us? No. The whole point of this forum (and others like it) is for people to engage in debate on such topics.
Those who don't regularly engage or their engagement is limited to a very tight echo chamber? Absolutely. These are the major network news watchers, those who still get the majority of their news from chamber-builders like NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, NYT, etc. They are legion and 2020 proved that (even without cheating).
They are why we need resets every now and then and will continue to get them until the majority of news media moves away from politically biased activist journalism and back to more objective reporting.
In a very similar vein, the GOP members of Congress tend to bend to Leftish whims the further we get from such a reset (while the Left doesn't similarly to the Right). Compare the active House under Newt to the feckless bending-over of the House under McCarthy, for one quick example. For another, just look how fast Turtle turned on Trump (and then lost the Senate) simply because he's there for being a power-player instead of being there to do the best job for the American people.
It's no different than having to wipe your arse. It's going to be a dirty job but absolutely necessary if you're wanting to clean out as much shite as possible.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:41 am to Bard
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It's no different than having to wipe your arse. It's going to be a dirty job but absolutely necessary if you're wanting to clean out as much shite as possible.
This was NOT a necessary evil, no matter how much people pretend (only because Trump was involved.)
frick everyone involved in that bullshite. Covid, cities burning, election bullshite....
The only thing 2020 may have done is pushed us closer to insolvency.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:42 am to crossfire
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Now Trump can come in and extinguish this political woke nonsense.
It will never be extinguished, merely experience degrees of lessening, until we re-capture the education system (pre-k through graduate) from the "noble victim" mentality of many educators. As long as that continues to exist, generation after generation of students will grow up thinking the only way to earn respect or feel important is to self-identify as some sort of victim.
This is what happens when you push communalism over self-determination.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:45 am to BayouENGR
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Probably why GHWB was the only GOP candidate not labeled as Hitler-like or fascist
Democrats have filed impeachment papers on every elected Republican since Ike.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:49 am to LSUAngelHere1
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I have come to realize that 2020 was a necessary evil…
I agree and honestly given how tight this race is wonder how bad things would need to get before the overwhelming majority of people reject these progressive crazies. I would’ve thought the last four years would’ve been enough …. but apparently not.
If Kamala wins, I admit I’ll be curious to see if another four years of this total shitshow will move the needle. At what point will this parade of deviants and idiots that are actively stealing from us and destroying the country be enough to turn some of these solid blue areas to reconsider their position.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:50 am to The Boat
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Part II is always the darkest part of any trilogy before the heroes win in the end
Yes. 2020 was definitely The Empire Strikes Back and The Two Towers rolled into one
Get ready for Return of the Jedi/King
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:52 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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The problem is that they set themselves apart, vilify anyone who doesn’t fall in line with their values , and then accuse conservatives of being totalitarians when we don’t comply . They are true psychopaths.
I was just watching an interview with Lindsy Graham on ABC. I was absolutely shocked that he was calling them out, on all the exact crap we're talking about. Lindsy Graham!!
Anyway.
Psychopaths, yes. Paranoid delusional, also yes.
All of the accusations. I mentioned Graham, because yeah. We are all really getting to the boiling point, when even sellouts like him are sick of it.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 9:53 am
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The people who would put another shutdown on us in a heartbeat?
They learned nothing, except Republicans can be easily manipulated into paying them.
You’re not the only one who figured out what happened, bruh.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:57 am to Y.A. Tittle
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You’re not the only one who figured out what happened, bruh.
I was one of the few on this board before bailouts preaching against them and trumps inflationary visions.
But I dont expect a lot out of an ideology that doesnt believe Trumps spending contributed to inflation, and his hands off stance allowing cities to burn and election shenanigans.
I talked about this shite in 2016, and MAGA fought me like they were Democrats.
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Economists agree that we needed massive deficit spending during the COVID-19 crisis to ward off an economic cataclysm, but federal finances under Trump had become dire even before the pandemic. That happened even though the economy was booming and unemployment was at historically low levels. By the Trump administration’s own description, the pre-pandemic national debt level was already a “crisis” and a “grave threat.”
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This was NOT a necessary evil, no matter how much people pretend (only because Trump was involved.)
To play with Google translator a bit: accidit, ergo est (it happened, therefore it is).
Trump's involvement is just incidental, not causative. Anyone getting into office by pushing a truly America-first philosophy would meet similarly strong pushback from our Leftist media.
Without Carter, we would not have had Reagan. Without Clinton, we would have not had Newt. Without Newt we would not have seen welfare reform at that time. Without Obama, we would not have had Trump. Without Trump we would not have had the media expose itself so blatantly (especially in hindsight) to many outside the "conspiracy theory" circles of conservatives. Without Biden and Harris, we would not have an even greater zeal for a Trump return to office. And I'll go ahead and toss this out: without Trump we may not have ever realized what an amazing diamond in the rough we had with JD Vance.
It is, and will always be, a necessary evil because Tytler's quote is 100% true:
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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
Tytler's quote is based on the understanding that Man's capacity for wanting things ("greed" for lack of a better term) will, if left unchecked, build to a point of societal destruction. That we are about to top $36T in debt and have already blown by this year's projected deficit is evidence that we haven't had nearly enough of these checks and how much more important they become as more and more "noble victims" vote themselves largess from the public coffers in the form of aid for their victimhood.
So, again, as long as we have a society which perpetuates our children growing up believing they are victims, we are creating a society which increasingly demands to vote itself more largess from the public coffers. That inclination will grow to the point where we get a Clinton, or Obama, or Biden or even GW Bush (who expanded SNAP to include illegals, who signed the Ethanol bill into law, etc), who have moved various policies so far Left that we then need a corrective Reagan or Trump.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:54 am to Bard
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So, again, as long as we have a society which perpetuates our children growing up believing they are victims, we are creating a society which increasingly demands to vote itself more largess from the public coffers.
Which was exacerbated in 2017-2021.
The public coffers proudly spit up its contents, and kids are more entitled than ever.
We're pretty much doomed regardless of who is elected because we built back the economy on massive debt.
Neither Trump nor Kamala can maneuver a "soft landing" here. So we will continue to kick the can down the road. Just watch.
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