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re: I freely admit DeSantis is probably the better candidate
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What did Trump ACTUALLY do to "disrupt the normal flow of DC politics than Trump"?
Lol. Be born.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 7:20 pm
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Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Started that post off with a bang
“Everyone I don’t agree with is a Trumpkin” ~ SFP
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:22 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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“Everyone I don’t agree with is a Trumpkin” ~ SFP
That doesn't even make sense
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:22 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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Right, so you cannot name anyone.
Why would I have to? I don't understand your argument. You seem to be suggesting the Trump should be reelected because he was shitty just like everybody else. That's a pretty weak argument to reelect the guy.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What did Trump ACTUALLY do to "disrupt the normal flow of DC politics than Trump"?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That doesn't even make sense
Like most of what you post here?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What did Trump ACTUALLY do to "disrupt the normal flow of DC politics than Trump"?
Just a few items:
1) He told the MIC he was running the military and they would do what he wanted them to. They disobeyed him on occasion and several generals committed what I would consider treason, but that isn't on Trump.
2) He told the state department he was running foreign policy, not them. (Remember the "he didn't let anyone in his meeting with Putin, OMG he's basically a Russian asset along with the first impeachment.)
3) He asserted that the government existed for the American people, not immigrants from third world shitholes. Just that declaration alone made him a racist xenophobe who should probably be assassinated.
We could go on for a very long time.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:25 pm to AggieHank86
There is a fair amount of simple minded groomers as well.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:27 pm to David_DJS
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You seem to be suggesting the Trump should be reelected because he was shitty just like everybody else.
100% incorrect. I'm suggesting he was better than anyone of the last century, despite his clear failures.
Everyone here acts like a massively entrenched bureaucracy consisting of millions of people and a hundred years of time establishing their tentacles in American society is going to be "fixed" with a few appointees in a year or two.
It would take 50 years, the will of the American people, and a political party firmly committed to massively reducing the power of the government.
In short, it isn't going to happen by voting.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:29 pm to Jdillard343434
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Because trump or biden bring nothing but contention contention is of the devil not the lord that's all I need to know and don't give me this crap well the dems crazies are too ok well fine I'm not going to be I know there is something after this chapter I need people more like christ atleast have some christ like attributes
If one feels tension or contention it’s because he allowed himself to be such, in all likelihood by way of listening to those sources and interests that are specifically out to do so. I’m not saying Trump or any other politician for that matter is free from causing contentious moments and periods (I would hope folks understand that that is “normal” to a certain degree), but you have probably noticed the special efforts made by every source you can brainstorm to specifically cause chaos and contention and tension. And each of us bears responsibility of our own to manage and screen those things and realities, and to use nothing but the logic and rational thought process that God gave us for good reason. Most people here have not used it or abused it.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:29 pm to lsuguy84
Mr. Trump, what did you to do "disrupt the normal flow of DC politics than Trump"?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:29 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Like most of what you post here?
Uh..No?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:30 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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Everyone here acts like a massively entrenched bureaucracy consisting of millions of people and a hundred years of time establishing their tentacles in American society is going to be "fixed" with a few appointees in a year or two.
Literally nobody thinks that. Why do you pretend everyone does? Because your argument is weak.
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It would take 50 years, the will of the American people, and a political party firmly committed to massively reducing the power of the government.
Or it would take a president, leading his party, in reducing federal spend - name your metric, capping increases to zero, as a percentage of GDP, whatever. And that's where DT failed bigly. He spent more than Obama, and that was before he went ridiculous with Covid spending.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:30 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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1) He told the MIC he was running the military and they would do what he wanted them to. They disobeyed him on occasion and several generals committed what I would consider treason, but that isn't on Trump.
2) He told the state department he was running foreign policy, not them. (Remember the "he didn't let anyone in his meeting with Putin, OMG he's basically a Russian asset along with the first impeachment.)
3) He asserted that the government existed for the American people, not immigrants from third world shitholes. Just that declaration alone made him a racist xenophobe who should probably be assassinated.
Translation:
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:32 pm to David_DJS
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Or it would take a president, leading his party, in reducing federal spend - name your metric, capping increases to zero, as a percentage of GDP, whatever. And that's where DT failed bigly. He spent more than Obama, and that was before he went ridiculous with Covid spending.
Trump's biggest victories as President were GOPE plans that predated him and were enacted by others. Trump was just a GOPE rubber stamp.
His failures rivaled the biggest DEM bullshite in literal history (like his total admin spending).
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
You taking estrogen baw? That rivals the most melodramatic statements in literal history.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:35 pm to PsychTiger
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But I see the reality that Trump will be the Republican nominee.
Absolute loser talk.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:36 pm to David_DJS
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Literally nobody thinks that. Why do you pretend everyone does?
Because that is what you have to believe to suggest Trump was a massive failure in his first 4 years.
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Or it would take a president, leading his party, in reducing federal spend
That isn't going to happen. It isn't going to happen with Trump 2.0, DeSantis, or Cthulu running the show. There is zero interest by anyone in DC for reducing spending. You think DeSantis is going to shut down the government for 3 and a half years when Congress refuses to act on his budget? That would be great, but it isn't going to happen and YOU know that.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Uh..No?
Yes
The OP is clearly living in the reality that Trump will be the nominee, unlike the posters I pointed out who are dreaming that DeSantis will be the nominee and he ALONE can fix the problems.
You share in their delusions, hence the reason you rush in here with your “hurr durr Trumpkins are projecting” rubbish.
Acknowledging that Trump will be the nominee and resigning yourself to supporting him doesn’t make someone a “Trumpkin” no matter how badly you want it to.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:39 pm to davyjones
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You taking estrogen baw? That rivals the most melodramatic statements in literal history.
Is that how you deflect facts?
Tax cuts? GOPE policy they had ready for the next GOP president.
USSC picks? All Mitch McConnell and GOPE institutions (like the Heritage Foundation). That biggest part of that plan occurred when Obama was President. Again, Trump was a rubber stamp.
Those are the 2 biggest, possibly only, lasting policy legacies of Trump's first term...well at least the positive one. We'll see if Biden can break Trump's record for spending in a single term.
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