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re: I don’t understand how there can be so many liberal Catholics
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:00 am to cssamerican
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:00 am to cssamerican
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but no major party is trying to end safety net programs.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
Okay bro.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:05 am to 4cubbies
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Jesus was a radical progressive on Earth.
This is meaningless unless you define radical progressive. If you mean radical progressive by the current political definition, he most definitely was not in support of murdering babies and cutting off healthy body parts due to mental illness.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:30 am to burger bearcat
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Biden, Colbert, Pelosi, Newsome
John Bel Edwards, Mitch Landrieu etc etc etc.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:55 am to burger bearcat
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2) There are a ton who just identify as Catholic, attend on Christmas/Easter. These ones are 50/50 at best
C&E Catholics suck donkeys.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:31 am to Snipe
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Protestant churches have always been wrong and began to fall apart as soon as they rejected the Apostolic teachings and traditions in the 1500's.
Not sure how anyone can look at all of that gobbly asian and say they are the one true church.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:53 pm to Canon951
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Not sure how anyone can look at all of that gobbly asian and say they are the one true church
At that time Jesus declared, "I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to infants; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will."
Matthew 11:25.
You ever meditate on what Jesus meant by this? Why Jesus would thank the Father for allowing the wise and learned to remain in darkness and not see the Truth?
I'm also curious, do you believe in God?
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:02 pm to AOC4PREZ2028
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No one is "pushing" abortion on you.
No one is "pushing" LGBT stuff on you. Gay people want to be free to love who they want to love. They want to get married. They want to file taxes together. They want to kiss in public. Sorry you think it is gross. But no one is trying to make you gay. That's ridiculous.
Your argument was often repeated 10-15 years ago. They got marriage rights and did they stop there? Now they're trying to normalize it and push it on kids. Same with the transgender debauchery. Its obvious now and there's no denying it.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:09 pm to 4cubbies
Jesus knew his path to the Cross whether you grasp that fact or not is irrelevant. At no point have I claimed Jesus condoned murder, that is an emotional straw man argument which you are good at. Capital punishment isn’t murder anymore than fighting in a war is if you are a soldier assuming you aren’t fighting for the Nazis. God commanded several acts of war by the Jews. You know the guy who is manifested in Jesus? Yes you do have a child like understanding of the Bible
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:29 pm to Snipe
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You ever meditate on what Jesus meant by this? Why Jesus would thank the Father for allowing the wise and learned to remain in darkness and not see the Truth? I'm also curious, do you believe in God?
You think he is talking about the catholic church? ??
He’s talking about the religious leaders of the time, also known as the Pharisees. They were the wise and learned among the people.
I absolutely believe in God and his son the Lord Jesus Christ. My belief in him makes me justified before him.
Edited to add….the gospel is so simple a child can believe it. That’s what he means when he is saying “revealed” to infants or those that are not as mentally advanced. Jesus died to save sinners. Whosoever believes in him shall not perish but will have everlasting life. A child can understand that.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:57 pm to burger bearcat
I have a very liberal friend who is catholic. Her husband is also a detective and she is constantly trying to skirt the lay of the land with 'cops being terrible' but also backing her husband. It's very entertaining seeing it on Facebook.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:11 pm to cssamerican
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Perhaps because the Rock was the foundational truth that Jesus is the Son of the living God is what the Church is built on, rather than the man named Peter.
1500 years worth of early Church fathers and tradition would disagree with you
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:18 pm to conservativewifeymom
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And it starts at the top, the very top. With (uber liberal) Francis dead and buried, it remains to be seen how Leo will lead. That's who they all take their cues from.
What cues exactly? Be specific. Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:27 pm to burger bearcat
Here's my take:
In my youth, it seemed to me like all the libs were catholic or Episcopalian in public life. It was the Christian Coalition era, so you had the evangelicals dominating the political right.
Geographically, this made sense. The South/Texas were largely protestant, union states and the NE were heavily Catholic. At that time, I think to be in public life you had to give some lip service to faith - being an outspoken non-believer in politics or business wasn't really smiled upon. And most of the elite institutions were in places with a heavy Catholic presence and hence, you had a lot of non-practicing Catholic-in-name only presence in American life, especially from a leftward bent. A lot of the people you're talking about arose or came to prominence in that era.
Over time, however, I think the need for the political left/elites/etc. to wear Catholicism as a skin suit has diminished - they can just be nothing now. Union states declined and dispersed all over the country. And so the overall presence of Catholicism in these circles has diminished. The byproduct of that is the remnant of Catholicism in the US probably being more serious, more conservative, etc. in the last decade or so as the chaff has burned off. But I think Pelosi and Biden and people like that are holdovers.
A lot of this is true for all of the mainline, although it's a little messy because you certainly had plenty of legitimate mainline congregations in the 90s and it varied widely by region.
In my youth, it seemed to me like all the libs were catholic or Episcopalian in public life. It was the Christian Coalition era, so you had the evangelicals dominating the political right.
Geographically, this made sense. The South/Texas were largely protestant, union states and the NE were heavily Catholic. At that time, I think to be in public life you had to give some lip service to faith - being an outspoken non-believer in politics or business wasn't really smiled upon. And most of the elite institutions were in places with a heavy Catholic presence and hence, you had a lot of non-practicing Catholic-in-name only presence in American life, especially from a leftward bent. A lot of the people you're talking about arose or came to prominence in that era.
Over time, however, I think the need for the political left/elites/etc. to wear Catholicism as a skin suit has diminished - they can just be nothing now. Union states declined and dispersed all over the country. And so the overall presence of Catholicism in these circles has diminished. The byproduct of that is the remnant of Catholicism in the US probably being more serious, more conservative, etc. in the last decade or so as the chaff has burned off. But I think Pelosi and Biden and people like that are holdovers.
A lot of this is true for all of the mainline, although it's a little messy because you certainly had plenty of legitimate mainline congregations in the 90s and it varied widely by region.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:35 pm to Canon951
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He’s talking about the religious leaders of the time, also known as the Pharisees. They were the wise and learned among the people.
He's talking about you.
You say you believe in God but you reject the Church He established on Earth through the direction of his Apostles. Through their teachings both written and oral.
No doubt you are a scholar of the Bible and can quote it without thinking but what you lack is decrement.
They traditions that you so casually cast aside and make an mockery of go back to the first and second centuries. I'd be careful if I were you. the worst lie you've been told is that your salvation cannot be lost. Presumption of salvation is the stumbling block that will cause many to fall.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 3:16 pm to Snipe
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He's talking about you.
You say you believe in God but you reject the Church He established on Earth through the direction of his Apostles. Through their teachings both written and oral.
No doubt you are a scholar of the Bible and can quote it without thinking but what you lack is decrement.
They traditions that you so casually cast aside and make an mockery of go back to the first and second centuries. I'd be careful if I were you. the worst lie you've been told is that your salvation cannot be lost. Presumption of salvation is the stumbling block that will cause many to fall.
I'm taking Jesus at his word friend. Are you saying he was not telling the truth all through the Book of John when he promised everlasting life to those who believed in him?
Do you realize that the Pharisees were the religious elite of the time? They were the ones that all of the common people revered because of their piety and law keeping? I certainly don't mean to insult you but you have very little biblical knowledge and have been mislead by your "church". Instead of following "church fathers" maybe read up on the scriptures yourself and you will begin to see all of the contradictions in what Jesus said and what the church has taught you.
And "no" he wasn't talking about me. He was talking about the Pharisees. Here is the entire chapter in context. The Pharisees put religious burdens on the people that they could not keep (and the Pharisees didn't keep for that matter). The people thought they could never be right with God because they couldn't keep the law as good as the Pharisees who they put on a pedestal.
25 At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; 26 yes, Father, for such was your gracious will.[g] 27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. 28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Jesus is declaring the simplicity of the gospel and that whoever would believe it would have rest from the burden of religious works which consequently the Catholic church is steeped in. Put your faith alone in Christ alone in his finished work and leave Rome behind.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 3:17 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
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1500 years worth of early Church fathers and tradition would disagree with you
These the same guys that came up with purgatory, prayers for the dead, mary worship,etc?
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:04 pm to burger bearcat
This is a great question and I always used to wonder the same thing. The older I get, the more I think it has to do with money. Nothing else, just money.
Think about it, literally everything the Democrats do, every position they take, is just part of a larger scheme to enrich themselves. Supporting all these asinine causes is a money maker because of the massive amounts of govt money being spent to research and support these stupid causes. Its nothing more than a political gravy train, see USAID.
Think about it, literally everything the Democrats do, every position they take, is just part of a larger scheme to enrich themselves. Supporting all these asinine causes is a money maker because of the massive amounts of govt money being spent to research and support these stupid causes. Its nothing more than a political gravy train, see USAID.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:07 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Your argument was often repeated 10-15 years ago. They got marriage rights and did they stop there? Now they're trying to normalize it and push it on kids. Same with the transgender debauchery. Its obvious now and there's no denying it.
Yeah, we "got" gay marriage and NOTHING HAPPENED. Everyone went to work and society did not melt down like you predicted.
No one is pushing gayness on kids. Being gay is normal, just like having red hair or being left handed. It should be normalized so that gay kids don't feel isolated and suicidal.
Transgender debauchery? Lol. What does that even mean? Trans people aren't trying to groom kids. The Catholic church does that enough, but no one is trying to ban Catholicism.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:24 pm to Canon951
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These the same guys that came up with purgatory, prayers for the dead, mary worship,etc?
Prayers for the dead: 2 Maccabees 12:46 (this is one of the books Protestants conveniently removed. “Sola Scriptura” unless it’s scripture they disagree with.)
Purification after death: 1 Corinthians 3:15
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mary worship
This tells me your knowledge of the Catholic faith is about thimble deep.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:59 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
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This tells me your knowledge of the Catholic faith is about thimble deep.
Grew up catholic. Left the catholic faith at the age of 24 when God revealed his Son to me. Been headed to heaven ever since.
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