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re: I don’t think this Smollett saga is over yet

Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:59 pm to
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I'm surprised they didn't just try the case (poorly and unprepared) and let him walk instead. All this does is open it up to further scrutiny.


You’d have to put the investigating cops on the stand. Too risky.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20697 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:12 pm to
This was an incredibly stupid move. This wasn’t some small hick town where you could phone your uncle who’s buddies with the sherif and have a speeding ticket dismissed. This was a super high profile case that got tons of media attention because of the person involved and the claims he made. You can’t be dumb enough to make this kind of move and believe people will just let it go. Announcing that you are dropping all charges because of his previous community service is beyond laughable especially after a grand jury indicted him on 16 felony counts.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65134 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:13 pm to
This was s total blackwash, as it will be shown
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:15 pm to
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you can bet your sweet arse the AG and Smollet family and friends will be under investigation.


I hope so. But I sure as hell wouldn't bet on it.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20697 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:26 pm to
It smells of a criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice. On one hand you have a grand jury who felt the evidence was strong enough to indict on 16 (that’s is sixteen) felony counts and on the other hand you have friends and other high profile persons reaching out to/ coordinating with the state AG on the defendants behalf to escape justice. Foxx certainly can’t claim that they reached a plea agreement either. She just had the charges dropped and his record expunged. She was clearly working on Smollet’s behalf and not representing the interests of the people of Chicago or Illinois.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:27 pm to
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On one hand you have a grand jury who felt the evidence was strong enough to indict on 16 (that’s is sixteen) felony counts and on the other hand you have friends and other high profile persons reaching out to/ coordinating with the state AG on the defendants behalf to escape justice.


Can they simply have another Grand Jury indict again? Or were the charges dismissed with prejudice?
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
11813 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:29 pm to
The simple fact that Rahm Emanuel who is one of the most liberal politicians in the country is livid over this tells the American public that something truly evil went on behind the scenes.

This was a massive cover up and the people responsible along with Smollett should spend years in prison for it.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:36 pm to
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Foxx is being put out in the wind for sure

Imagine destroying your career and possible jail time covering for a loser like Smollett.

The justice system is going to get their pound of flesh on this. She'll now be a part of it, and based on how stupid they appear to be leaving a trail this could implicate so many more.

This couldn't be a better week for social conservatives.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20697 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:37 pm to
I think you’d probably have to remove Foxx as AG and potentially charge her to start. Secondly I’d think you’d have to move to have the deal nullified in some way because it is the result of an illegal activity involving the AG and the defendant and or associates of the defendant. In other words, was the deal reached in good faith or was it the result of a conspiracy to obstruct justice. I’m certainly not a lawyer though so I don’t know, but those text messages that are being leaked are not good for the AG or Smollet. She certainly angered some very powerful people in Chicago though.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18840 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Imagine destroying your career and possible jail time covering for a loser like Smollett.


Makes you wonder if there is a bigger fish Foxx is actually covering for in this case, like maybe whoever put Jussie up to it
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20697 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Maybe as a way to drop all of it, they gave him a pretty good offer to put other people, more important people, away?


He would still have to enter a plea agreement where in exchange for his testimony and cooperation he would receive X. There is none of that here. The AG simply dropped the charges, but she dropped them after coordinating with representatives of Smollet. She was clearly acting on behalf of Jussie and not the state. The texts prove it.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52853 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:28 pm to
As I understand it prosecutors have nearly unlimited authority to do what they wanna do
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:31 pm to
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the Chicago PD and the Mayor absolutely furious



Rightfully so


If that little Jussie had been released and said something like "I'm sorry for the pain I've caused blah blah blah" things wouldn't be as bad.

But he came out and doubled down that he was the victim and wagged his finger at the CPD. He can go frick himself for that
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7179 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:33 pm to
He about to be the cream in that Nigerian Oreo again.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:36 pm to
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I'm surprised they didn't just try the case (poorly and unprepared) and let him walk instead. All this does is open it up to further scrutiny.


And this is the key. When something doesn’t make sense there is usually a deeper meaning.

They didn’t want anymore evidence coming out
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48801 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:41 pm to
Obama will make a few calls and they will all fall in line.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:41 pm to
Not that any of us think it would happen, but technically the state can refile charges at any point within the statute of limitations (prescriptive period as we call it in Louisiana) UNLESS the matter was dismissed "with prejudice" which I havent seen specified. Leads me to believe without prejudice which allows refiling.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
14985 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Some of us knew about the text message leaks, weeks ago.


We knew politicians and prosecutors were trying to influence the investigation. We suspected that influence resulted in the CPD dedicating a disproportionate amount of resources into the case.

We also knew some of those responsible for the outside influence had egg on their face, and were exposed once Jussie was arrested.

I don’t think anyone could have predicted the brazen actions that happened today. This level of corruption has shocked even Chicago.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14327 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:46 pm to
IMHO, the reason for this was to seal the records. They couldn't let this go to trial. Evidence would become public. Text messages between Jussie and Kamala Harris or something similar. That absolutely, positively, couldn't get out. The only option was to shut it down and hide the evidence. This wasn't just done for Jussie's personal benefit.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:47 pm
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