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re: I don’t know what to think. Crooks acted alone vs Didnt

Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by entmd2002
Lufkin, TX
Member since Dec 2010
387 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:49 pm to
John McClain would have killed all the bad dudes!!
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34896 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:50 pm to
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They both didn’t get a kill shot on their target?


So the narrative explaining the success of JFK attempt was that he must have had help while the narrative around Crooks was that he must have had help due to the unmitigated failure of the attempt.

Got it!

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20136 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 1:04 pm to
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I’m saying the exact opposite of this. The local cops were never involved in any of the orchestrating. They were purposely kept farther away from the protectee in both cases. Butler cops must stick together in this.


10/4. I agree. I misunderstood, I thought you were insinuating that everyone was in on it, which would make it impossible to control.

On another note, if this had been planned from the beginning by “they”, why was Crooks out in the open using a rangefinder? That is apparently the first thing that caused him to be identified as a person of suspicion. If “they” had planned it, wouldn’t they have provided him the ranges to and from various landmarks. Especially from his shooting position to the podium. And why did he try to go through the magnetrometer, which he set off? Wouldn’t he have avoided that if “they” had planned this?

A lot of this doesn’t add up. But I don’t know why “they” would have wanted him to do that and risk getting detained by the local police.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
437 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 1:10 pm to
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So being on a four degree slope on a one story building is a life threatening situation for the Secret Service, whose job it is for their lives to be taken for the President. You could fall off that roof and probably not break a leg, so way too high of a risk for these people. You’re a retard if you believe this.


You are a moron. Are you too dense to see a crappy knee jerk excuse being made up instead of having to admit you fricked up? It’s beyond normal. Happens almost every time a human screws up lol. Director is an idiot and needs to be fired. But, for some absolute fool like you to jump straight to it being proof of some massive conspiracy(in the face of absurd logic to the contrary) damages the party and legitimate issues.

But please go on spewing your emptiness onto this board. You either don’t understand or you don’t care. Pretty sure you are only ignorant. But could definitely be both.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 1:18 pm to
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So according to you they are killing RFK by not giving him SS and they are killing Trump via the SS they provide for him. Thats an awfully convenient binary.


They are required by law to provide Trump SS Protection, because if it wasn’t, then that commie twat Mayorkas would not oblige him of it.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12707 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 1:26 pm to
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Ineptness by local PD and lack of oversight by SS easily explain this, though.


No, not really. You have to be almost childishly naive to believe this.
Posted by oldtrucker
Marianna, Fl
Member since Apr 2013
3046 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 1:54 pm to
So "they" wanted him dead? Well he would be dead.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2660 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 2:02 pm to
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So you think some 20 year old loser with a menial labor job that probably paid shite was able to: Come up with this plan Know how to gather the info without setting off red flags, Learn how to build IEDs with remote detonators, and successfully do so Have money to have gun and ammo to practice Have a drone capable of overriding the no fly zone Know where would be unguarded and when Be able to plant a gun inside the perimeter that went undetected Wander around with a range finder after being labeled a person of interest Have the SS know he was a suspicious person Get on the roof, all while attracting attention, and be able to take multiple shots, one which should have killed President trump. And he's acting completely alone on this?


You’re leaving out no social media presence, no significant search history, multiple offshore accounts, and an associated van with Arizona tags that’s just disappeared from the news.

That’s not even mentioning the guy who climbed the “hidden” ladder to the roof, claimed to be ATF, requested pics of the dead guy and all other pics/videos to be sent to him, now it appears he’s a ghost who’s gone dark.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2660 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 2:03 pm to
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When the shooter is a 20 year old who lives at home and has to take his father’s gun that day, he isn’t part of a professional organized conspiracy. The simple explanation is the most likely. He was a loner kid loser who had access to guns, who wanted to become immortal famous. Sometimes these kind of kids shoot up a school. A couple have shot up churches. This one decided to take shots at Trump. It isn’t any more complicated than that.


Oh, you sweet summer child…
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2660 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 2:09 pm to
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I may have some details incorrect here but wasn’t it reported that the kid had 2 vehicles nearby? If he lived nearly an hour away from the site, then how did he get 2 vehicles there by himself?


One being a van with Arizona tags. Which was towed away, and immediately disappeared from the news.
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