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re: I don’t feel sorry for Fed employees losing their jobs

Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by Rambler
Coastal Landmass
Member since Jan 2011
1539 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:52 pm to
I feel sorry for the probationary employees. Just finished college, turned down other job offers, moved to a new city (which was most likely not DC), leased an apartment, started making plans for marriage and a family, and suddenly unemployed.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 11:53 pm
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10212 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:18 am to
I never want to see anyone lose thier job ,but our government is way too bloated and it needs to be done. That being said I joined a group a few years back when I was applying for the FAA that is a source of information about anything related to Government workers. Anyway some of the people posting on there have the biggest entitlement mentality I have ever seen. Some are posting that they are trying to bring a lawsuit. Many of these people think that the government owes them a job.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62530 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:34 am to
President Trump is trying to get the numbers close to the amount of government employees in 2019. Biden continued to hire government employees to help the employment numbers. Just padded the payroll!
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1380 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:36 am to
Federal Government employees have an entitlement complex. The lowest form of scum to a FedGov employee is a government contractor. I have heard this in person from FedGov employees. The problem with that mindset is that if there were not any contractors to do the work of a FedGov employee then nothing would get accomplished.

There are some decent FedGov but that is about 20%. The other 80% could be fired and the only difference would be a saving of taxpayer money.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:37 am to
OP joins the long list of mongoloids taking joy in this, creating ill will that will manifest as millions of additional Dem votes in 2026.

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A. They forget about all the soldiers & fed employees who were fired for refusing the covid Vax.

This is one hell of a dumbass reason. "Something bad happened to them so I don't care if it happens to you!" Congrats on being in the 3rd grade. Maybe mommy will get you an ice cream cake for your birthday.

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B. Everyone else in the private sector worries about getting fired all the time. It’s nothing new to us. My arse hole clinches every year during our budget review

Go look at all the grant and contract positions in the federal workforce and get back to us.

These exercises in self-righteousness should be a sight to behold in about 18 months. "I wished evil on all those federal workers, how did we lose all those seats in midterms? I can't figure it out."

You asshats act like the random govt worker is sitting in an office plotting how to ruin your lives. At least 95% of them are no different than you, just looking for a way to pay the bills and take care of their families. Govt must be downsized, but this current approach is not the proper way to do it with the people that played no role in creating this mess, and it's going to cost a lot at the ballot box. I'm amazed every day at how myopic and stupid you guys are on this issue. You can't even see this through the lens of pragmatism.

Fed workforce is 10M people. Do the math. Put a target on the backs of 10M people, take a guess how they're going to vote.

Federal Times

The Census estimates there were roughly 122 million active U.S. voters in 2022, of which the federal workforce represents a small fraction: about 2.2 million. But counting millions more retirees, service members, sympathetic family and friends, and state and local government workers, the total government workforce has the potential to be a significant voter base,

It's far more than 2.2M. This is just looking at non-DoD GS positions. I wonder what friends and family members might do at the ballot box if they see people's lives getting destroyed and a bunch of Republicans cheering for joy.

About 43% of respondents said they planned to vote Democrat this year compared to 33% Republican and 16% independent.

Half said they believed the Democratic party best represented the interests of the federal workforce, whereas 22% said the GOP was a better representative. Another 20% said neither were suitable, and 5% said independent third-party candidates were more in line with employees’ interests.

About half lean Republican or Independent. What do you think their wallets and family obligations will tell them to do in 18 months? You think you're the only ones that got affected by inflation? Gov employees also had to deal with it. I wonder how many of them are fully prepared to be jobless.

Still, almost every employee interviewed by Federal Times echoed the same message: they work on behalf of the American people, and they just want to be given the tools to do that.
Wow, so much evil. Those GS-5s in the mail room are coming to get you.

I wonder what Democrats will promise in these midterms - likely a freeze to all firing actions, back pay and re-hiring of everyone fired, plus some sort of bonus for their hardship. We all know Democrats have no issues spending money. They'll raise the debt limit and give us a $10T federal budget without blinking. And they'll get enough RINO votes to make things veto proof if they clean up in the midterms. Of course, non of you men of genius bother to think about this.

Let's assume that survey is wildly off base and the fed workforce is 70% Dem already. That's a potential of 3M people that are not Dem, that will be strongly compelled to vote Dem. You think 3M votes can swing enough seats to give Dems control of Congress? Yes, it absolutely can. Trump lost in 2020 by less than 50k votes, total, across a few different states. It will only take a 1000 or so in some of these House races to swing them red to blue. If Trump doesn't have the economy roaring with tons of added jobs, where are these federal employees supposed to go? You can rest assured that all 10M of them are thinking about that every day.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27178 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:38 am to
It takes a horrible person to not feel sorry for someone losing their job. I am a horrible person.








Kinda joking. I only feel sorry for some. Anyone of them that hates republicans see above.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:47 am to
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Congress has not appropriated any money for any sort of severance. They’re about to be screwed.


Who in Congress would vote against it?
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4775 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 2:17 am to

This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 2:20 am to
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Well, I guess that depends which side you're on.


Now do military.

Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28108 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 2:22 am to
What happened to the military?
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1380 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 2:49 am to
"OP joins the long list of mongoloids taking joy in this, creating ill will that will manifest as millions of additional Dem votes in 2026."

Poster POTUTS2024 must be a federal government employee because, unless you are federal government employee, or a federal government contractor, or at least trying to be a fedgov employee or contractor, nobody reads Federal Times.

POTUS2024, you wasted time, probably taxpayer time, copying and pasting from the Fed Times. Give it up, LEARN TO WORK!
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 2:53 am to
Federal employees do not have tenure. You know, like teachers.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4775 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:14 am to
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This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12689 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:27 am to
Federal contracts also give jobs and money to Americans; cut the fat; stop with the behind the back contracts that give millions to people behind the back door like bureaucrats!
Posted by DefCon1
Member since Dec 2017
785 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:55 am to
Let them learn to code, pick crops, become uber drivers,fans only, or work on an oil rig. Lots of new opportunities in the booming economy Trump is creating again.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138876 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:00 am to
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I don’t feel sorry for Fed employees losing their jobs
Trump has a limited time to make huge changes.
Time constraints will mitigate meticulousness.
Mistakes will be made.
That's the lay-of-the-land; it's a 100 days window of opportunity.

Trump tried to reorganize/restructure the Executive Branch in his first term only to be hamstrung by internal "resistance" among "nonpolitical" appointees. He is not one to make the same mistake twice. So this go-round he's clearing house. Even if it means tossing out some good with the bad.

He's given Musk carte blanche, removed the guardrails, and said "you only have 'this much" time." Musk in turn, recommends axing entire divisions. 20%, 30%, 50% or more of those groups might actually be workers who would do their best to comply with Trump directives, and who never did or never would "resist." But there is not time for reconsideration. DOGE recommendations are nearly universally being accepted. Good folks are getting tossed aside with them, as the baby with the bathwater.

Now you're right about private sector layoffs and prior CV19-vax dismissals. So there's a sense of schadenfreude, and franky there are much worse empathy-killing government episodes.

Incidents like the Andrew Weissmann - Arthur Andersen Affair alone ripped away livelihoods of nearly 30,000 good, hard-working, career professionals. Far from being castigated, Weissmann was elevated to hero status in DC circles over that legal atrocity. There were the attempts to ruin lives of hundreds of nonviolent J6ers. There were more recent attacks on parents, parishioners, and private religious organizations. Not one tear was shed nor one F given by the government about any of that.

So I get the overarching lack of sympathy.

But some of these Federal employees whom you "don’t feel sorry for" are inevitably going to be proven good folks. Review will show them to be folks who never sowed the wind, but were nonetheless swept away with the whirlwind -- collateral damage. I feel sorry for them, just as I did the thousands of brilliant AA accountants SlimeballWeissman screwed over. I feel very sorry for the peaceful J6ers who got caught up in a historical moment only to become subject of 21st Century Salem Witch Trials. So too do I feel for a ton of government workers, good folks, who are going to suffer punishment for others' sins.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
73192 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:02 am to
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I wonder what Democrats will promise in these midterms - likely a freeze to all firing actions, back pay and re-hiring of everyone fired, plus some sort of bonus for their hardship. We all know Democrats have no issues spending money. They'll raise the debt limit and give us a $10T federal budget without blinking. And they'll get enough RINO votes to make things veto proof if they clean up in the midterms. Of course, non of you men of genius bother to think about this.


This is a salient point that the board is ignoring. What’s stopping this from being undone in the future post Trump? Democrats don’t care about the long list of USAID transaction to this very second. Even if this worked out, they’ll still fight it and try to eventually undo it.

I also agree firing some poor Joe Schmoe employees en masse isn’t going to help in future elections. Best case scenario they don’t vote for either party. The whole thing just seems like smashing a toilet with a sledgehammer because of a clog.




This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 5:04 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19979 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:12 am to
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About 43% of respondents said they planned to vote Democrat this year compared to 33% Republican and 16% independent.


Wow, only 43% of federal employees say they will vote dem, that is down SIGNIFICANTLY, Trump is even making headway with fed employees.

Get out of the weeds Barron, you and your cronies always voted dem so no votes lost. However for millions of Americans who want the graft to stop, there will be a net gain of millions, millions, maybe even billions if they keep mail in balloting.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53717 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:43 am to
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our knee jerk reaction is to want to bring everyone down to our levels


Thats an incredibly ironic statement cosidering youre a socialist
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 5:43 am
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5112 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:43 am to
Fire 10% every year in every department. You are actually doing them a favor. The worst employee hates what he/she is doing. I guarantee it.
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