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re: I do feel sorry for the people of California, but.....

Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:37 pm to
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These areas aren't were control burns would take place to begin with. Its residential.




Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7929 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:39 pm to
It’s not just failure of government in California. It’s also Chicago, Atlanta, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, and on and on. 12 more days.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:40 pm to
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If you are a conservative in a blue area then you are crazy or too poor to move.

That's silly. Most of these areas are exceedingly more expensive than red areas.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:44 pm to
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I am a shitty person, but it is like spanking your kids when they are young. You do not want to do it and feel bad, but it will make your children grow up to be a better persons. We can hope this spanking from mother nature will make Californians be better people
Great analogy. But Mother Nature just popped the belt thru all those belt loops! For fricks sake, the government of California felt that it was more important to protect the Smelt, than address water shortage for human beings! Firemen are tapping dry fire hydrants! On top of that bullshite, a frick ton of people do not have home owner's insurance because the insurance companies saw the risk that the government was presenting with their shitty policy, the insurance companies asked the State to ok a rate increase, and the State said NO! So, the insurance companies pulled out after the policies came for renewal. No one would blame an insurance company for not willing to write an automobile policy on a chronic drunk driver!

So in synopsis, the State of California protected a fish, refused to do any forestry management in a high fire risk area, and are too stupid to understand that any company involved in risk management refuses to do business there. All because the good citizens continue to vote in leaders who say "Hold my beer" to the shitty, outgoing politicians.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:46 pm to
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If you're having a difficult time having sympathy for fellow Americans there is a pretty simple reason why. It's because you're a shitty person.

These are the same Americans that wanted flyover states to suffer during covid, cheered for deaths in red areas, are home to people that endorse the 'frick your freedom' tirades from people like Arnold, wanted all red areas to have collapsed economies, ridicule red areas for being 'too poor' to have beachfront property, castigate red areas for lack of gun control, not being progressive when it comes to censorship, cheer when red areas have hurricanes or tornadoes and say they deserve it for not buying into the climate propaganda, call red areas racists for wanting secure borders and routinely chant 'blue no matter who' - and now they are getting the consequences of 'blue no matter who'.

Fires in CA are one of the most profound FAFO political consequences in the US.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:47 pm to
Am I missing something? I don't know that they'd control burn that close to neighborhoods, even if they did the maintenance burns out there.

I could be wrong, I've just never heard of proscribed burns inside of/between population centers.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35934 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:48 pm to
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That's silly. Most of these areas are exceedingly more expensive than red areas.


I was under the impression we had expanded our field of discussion beyond the areas impacted by the fire.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:48 pm to
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No election caused this fire. These areas aren't were control burns would take place to begin with. Its residential.

When I lived in AZ, I watched them do controlled burns in forests directly abutting residential areas.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:50 pm to
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These are the same Americans that wanted flyover states to suffer during covid, cheered for deaths in red areas, are home to people that endorse the 'frick your freedom' tirades from people like Arnold, wanted all red areas to have collapsed economies, ridicule red areas for being 'too poor' to have beachfront property, castigate red areas for lack of gun control, not being progressive when it comes to censorship, cheer when red areas have hurricanes or tornadoes and say they deserve it for not buying into the climate propaganda, call red areas racists for wanting secure borders and routinely chant 'blue no matter who' - and now they are getting the consequences of 'blue no matter who'.

Fires in CA are one of the most profound FAFO political consequences in the US.

Over-generalized nonsense. There are more Republicans, conservatives, or otherwise normal people who vote in California than there are in most of the Southeast combined.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:51 pm to
Fair enough.

Still is ridiculous to make this into a political issue. Its no better than the internet retards who cheer shite like flooding or hurricanes in red states.

Its classless and overly simplistic.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:54 pm to
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Oh just shut the frick up with this shite already

If you're having a difficult time having sympathy for fellow Americans there is a pretty simple reason why. It's because you're a shitty person.
Are you trying to knock the crown off of SloFloPro for the most retarded poster? If so, congrats on making up some serious ground!

I feel bad for the drug addict that acquires a deadly disease from their habit. I feel bad for the drunk that wraps his car around a telephone pole. But, at the same time, I am grateful if they didn't hurt anyone else, and aware that their decisions were their own. That's the point, Corky. If you support leaders who push super-shitty policies, then you reap what you sow. Malibu is gone. Pretty confident that you would be hard pressed to find a single resident that did not vote for the very leadership that pushed this tragedy on them......and will probably continue to do so.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:56 pm to
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Am I missing something? I don't know that they'd control burn that close to neighborhoods, even if they did the maintenance burns out there.


Talked to a long time Forrster today. He said they used controlled burns and even pesticides for the underbrush as well as thinning trees. He said professionals are not really listened to in California. They only listen to "conservationists".
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Pretty confident that you would be hard pressed to find a single resident that did not vote for the very leadership that pushed this tragedy on them......and will probably continue to do so.

Trump got more than 1.1 million votes in LA County.

But regardless, you're a douchebag if you determine how you react to disasters that impact innocent people on their political preferences.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35934 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Still is ridiculous to make this into a political issue. Its no better than the internet retards who cheer shite like flooding or hurricanes in red states. Its classless and overly simplistic.


It may be uncouth while the tragedy is still ongoing I will grant you that but there is 100% a point to be made since a large part of the leftist agenda is to deemphasize competency and merit while placing an ridiculous level of emphasis on identity. This is in essence the scoreboard of politics, for better or worse.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47214 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:59 pm to
Unlike a hurricane or a polar vortex, a wildfire like this, while not 100% avoidable, does owe much of its devastation on the very gov policies one side refuses to embrace and the other states quite clearly is necessary, or face the very fate we're seeing unfold.

It's truly unconscionable that blind adherence to a cultish political belief, or several of them all at once, magnified this disaster many times over.


And yet, they still won't learn.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:59 pm to
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These are the same Americans that wanted flyover states to suffer during covid, cheered for deaths in red areas

Really? You know that all of these people had this mindset? And even if they did your solution is to just be as much of a POS as they were? Doesn't sound like a good tenet for success in life. It sounds like awful delusions to give you an excuse to be the shitty person you want to be.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:01 pm to
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t may be uncouth while the tragedy is still ongoing I will grant you that but there is 100% a point to be made since a large part of the leftist agenda is to deemphasize competency and merit while placing an ridiculous level of emphasis on identity. This is in essence the scoreboard of politics, for better or worse.

Yes, their government is beholden to the environmental whackos. Maybe this changes how they do things going forward.

"They voted for this" is still a really moronic take.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:03 pm to
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If you're having a difficult time having sympathy for fellow Americans there is a pretty simple reason why. It's because you're a shitty person.
wonder if FEMA will ignore Trump supporters like they did during the hurricane? Shitty indeed
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:03 pm to
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"They voted for this" is still a really moronic take.

Yeah. Someone will get raped somewhere and they'll be like "she voted for this" without knowing anything about the individual. It's a 100% moronic take.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:04 pm to
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it does kinda make it hard, considering they voted for the bullshite that led to this catastrophe! LA mayor, governor of the State, state legislature. All voted in the by the majority, and they make decisions that lead to shite like this


You’re a stupid count, this exact same rationale would then apply to the Louisiana leadership and their failure to secure the new years event from vehicles driving down streets full of people.
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