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re: "I come here today as a transgender woman..." Pro-Palestinian rally

Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Says the person who honestly believes the only rational explanation for the existence of our universe MUST be the Christian God who became half human, died on a cross as an adult, rose from the dead three days later, then ascended into heaven.

Not just a generic "some sort of supernatural force." You're extremely hyper specific version of Christianity that even most Christians would disagree with in some form of fashion.

Facts... Right...
You're the one mocking about facts when all you provided was speculation about what I might do if I were born in another country.

What if you were born in a nominally Christian country like America? I bet you'd be a Christian. Oh wait...
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21600 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:52 pm to
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What if you were born in a nominally Christian country like America? I bet you'd be a Christian. Oh wait...


Foo in a different conversation: "I can't believe how America is becoming less and less religious! So many people are leaving the faith and it's causing so many problems within our country!"
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 8:53 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:54 pm to
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Foo in a different conversation: "I can't believe how America is becoming less and less religious! It's causing so many problems within our country!"
That's true, and yet you still don't understand the point I'm making.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21600 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:55 pm to
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That's true,


I know it's true. You'll abandon stances you hold once they cut against the argument you're currently making.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17733 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:59 pm to
These freaks may someday face a rude awakening when they realize that intersectionality has it’s limits…..

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21600 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:01 pm to
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These freaks may someday face a rude awakening when they realize that intersectionality has it’s limits…..


They need to learn their lesson by being shipped over there, not by shipping that shite here.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
2895 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:07 pm to
That thing would be the first over the edge of a rall building..
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57226 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:17 pm to
LOL! Hamas would use that freak for target practice.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:19 pm to
There's a video out there showing a hooded, tied up man being thrown head first off the top of a building. But with the hood, it mite not have been a biological male . Or an "it". Mabe a "furrie"?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57226 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:34 pm to
Where is Palestine? Palestine, Texas?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:57 pm to
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I know it's true. You'll abandon stances you hold once they cut against the argument you're currently making.
I don’t abandon my stances and it doesn’t cut against my argument.

You like to make the argument that all religions are the same and they are all false, and the reason someone adheres to one religion over another is based on their geography.

I was demonstrating the flaw in your thought process by countering that even though we are a nominally Christian country (even if that influence isn’t as strong as in the past), you don’t seem to be persuaded to be a Christian. Likewise, there are many Christians in predominantly Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist countries because regardless of “odds”, people believe different things all over the world.

I really do hope that God changes your heart and grants you repentance and faith in Jesus so that you won’t be tormented for eternity.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21600 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:09 pm to
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You like to make the argument that all religions are the same and they are all false


No I believe they haven't reached the extremely high burden of proof their extraordinary claims have created.

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I was demonstrating the flaw in your thought process by countering that even though we are a nominally Christian country (even if that influence isn’t as strong as in the past), you don’t seem to be persuaded to be a Christian. Likewise, there are many Christians in predominantly Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist countries because regardless of “odds”, people believe different things all over the world.


That's a logical fallacy. Just because a social trend is common in one area doesn't mean it's common in all areas.

The Gaza strip is over 99% Muslim. You pointing to the two Christians in the Gaza strip is no different from gender ideology idiots saying that because of this super rare birth defect that now gender is on a spectrum.

The exception proves the rule. Gender is a binary and you'd be a Muslim if you were born in Gaza and, considering your religious fervor, you'd be gleefully slaughtering women and children because you think Allah told you to.

I fully admit I might as well. But I at least find the slaughter of women and children so distasteful by itself, without qualifiers, that I might still be against it.

You have no such lines of defense from atrocities.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17465 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:14 pm to
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I genuinely wish that I could understand why they support a people that genuinely hate/despise them. It makes absolutely no sense



I went down a rabbit hole on X from some guy that basically thinks that Israel staged the whole Oct 7th today. On it he had videos from a protest in NYC today….but it was Jews basically saying they deserved what Hamas did. It was even weirder than the Tranny because Oct 7th is so fresh.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12128 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:16 pm to
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I genuinely wish that I could understand why they support a people that genuinely hate/despise them. It makes absolutely no sense



Why do Blacks and Jews vote democrat? Democrats, in my opinion, are far more racist against the black community than Republicans are and democrats flat out hate Jews.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10789 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:27 pm to
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There are a lot of fools in the world, but no greater than the one who rejects his Creator.


Well said!
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10789 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:30 pm to
They are abundant in Atlanta too. But these people don’t need to be bowed down to.
But it’s too late for all that I suppose.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:41 am to
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No I believe they haven't reached the extremely high burden of proof their extraordinary claims have created.
Of course you don't. There is a different between proof and persuasion. You aren't persuaded. I don't think any other religious belief system offers the level of proof needed, either, because the Christian belief system provides the necessary preconditions for intelligibility and the others don't. However in our discussions about this, you have not been persuaded.

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That's a logical fallacy. Just because a social trend is common in one area doesn't mean it's common in all areas.
Which fallacy did I engage in that you are not engaging in?

My entire point of responding to you was what you just described: that a social trend (such as religious adherence) that is common in one area doesn't mean it's common in all areas.

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The Gaza strip is over 99% Muslim. You pointing to the two Christians in the Gaza strip is no different from gender ideology idiots saying that because of this super rare birth defect that now gender is on a spectrum.

The exception proves the rule. Gender is a binary and you'd be a Muslim if you were born in Gaza and, considering your religious fervor, you'd be gleefully slaughtering women and children because you think Allah told you to.
There are a little over 1,000 Christians in the Gaza strip. Not many, to be sure, but you are making assumptions about what-ifs rather than engaging in what is the case, including that I am a Christian in America. God has used the specific situations, people, and places in my life to make me what I am today. To just lift me up out of my current context and drop me into some hypothetical situation in the ME where I am exactly the same but part of another religion is absurd. It doesn't even speak to my temperament, which is one that dislikes confrontation. I have no bloodlust that would be amplified by Islamic belief, like you seem to be implying.

I should also state that since you are acting like religions are plug-and-play and that everything else about me would be the same in your hypothetical, I don't believe that God talks to people any longer except through the Bible. As far as I know, the same is true regarding Muslims and the Q'uran. I am not a fan of defending Muslims, but "Allah told you to" is not what all Muslims believe in regards to killing others. You have just as much of a misguided understanding about Islam as you do Christianity.

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I fully admit I might as well. But I at least find the slaughter of women and children so distasteful by itself, without qualifiers, that I might still be against it.

You have no such lines of defense from atrocities.
And this is where we get back to how your worldview is irrational. All you can reasonably say about "atrocities" are that they are "distasteful", which is nothing more than an opinion. You can't rationally call them "immoral" in a meaningful way because morality has no basis in objective reality when you reject the Christian God with all the attributes that provide what is necessary for us to know anything at all. All you have is a feeling, a distaste.

I can condemn such atrocities precisely because of the God I know and love. There is an objective standard that I can look at and say that when an atrocity occurs, it is "wrong", because the standard was broken.

So to counter what you claim, you are the one who has no defense from atrocities, because you have no ability to rationally call an atrocity an objectively immoral act.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21600 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Of course you don't. There is a different between proof and persuasion. You aren't persuaded.


You're not a mind reader. I use to be a Christian, so I'm certainly open minded enough to change my mind.

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My entire point of responding to you was what you just described: that a social trend (such as religious adherence) that is common in one area doesn't mean it's common in all areas.



You're pretending trends in America matter when discussing trends in the Gaza strip.

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There are a little over 1,000 Christians in the Gaza strip.


How many are foreigners and missionaries.

Fine. It's not a 100% chance. Just a ~99.97% chance.

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As far as I know, the same is true regarding Muslims and the Q'uran. I am not a fan of defending Muslims, but "Allah told you to" is not what all Muslims believe in regards to killing others. You have just as much of a misguided understanding about Islam as you do Christianity.


Weak.

Allah would have commanded it through his prophet, Muhammad. Allah told his followers to is an accurate statement.

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And this is where we get back to how your worldview is irrational. All you can reasonably say about "atrocities" are that they are "distasteful", which is nothing more than an opinion. You can't rationally call them "immoral" in a meaningful way because morality has no basis in objective reality when you reject the Christian God with all the attributes that provide what is necessary for us to know anything at all. All you have is a feeling, a distaste.

I can condemn such atrocities precisely because of the God I know and love. There is an objective standard that I can look at and say that when an atrocity occurs, it is "wrong", because the standard was broken.

So to counter what you claim, you are the one who has no defense from atrocities, because you have no ability to rationally call an atrocity an objectively immoral act.


*yawn* As if I'd let myself be lectured to by someone who would gleefully kill children if his god commanded it.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28370 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:26 pm to
Leftists have no individual self esteem. They hate anything normal society sees as strong. As successful. That’s why they hate America. While they will try to project otherwise, deep down they feel weak and self loathing. That’s why they identify with any group they see as a “victim” or inferior because they themselves silently feel inferior.

In this case they see the Palestinians as “victims” of what they view as a stronger culture. That’s why you see something so absurd as a gay person supporting a culture that would literally eradicate that person if given the opportunity.

Of course this is only limited to western leftists. In NO WAY do the Palestinians see themselves as weak or inferior. They aren’t that pathetic
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:31 pm to
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The cognitive dissonance of how much those people HATE what they are, probably as much as or more than Jews, does not occur to them. It can't.

Realistically transgenderism likely doesn’t even occur in those countries at a rate that those people would know about it. It would completely blow them out of the water it’s so extremely against their culture/ideology. I don’t think a transgender person would even make it to the rooftop before being killed
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