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re: I am saddened the Carmelo received a 35yr prison sentence
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:27 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:27 am to wackatimesthree
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Why is it a joke?
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BTW, less than 2% of murderers commit homicide again after being released. It's one of the lowest crimes that people re-commit.
You are correct. They never commit other crimes like rape, grand theft, armed robbery, etc.
Absolutely we should be lenient on the poor 17 year old criminals.
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:27 am to finchmeister08
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whatever happened to...
"if you come to texas and kill somebody... we will kill you back. that's our policy." - Ron White
Texas got their balls taken away when they let Austin become San Francisco and Dallas become New Delhi.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:35 am to wackatimesthree
Why must you argue with literally everything I post? 35 years with possibly only doing half isn’t acceptable. You’re straight up trash.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:28 am to wackatimesthree
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BTW, less than 2% of murderers commit homicide again after being released. It's one of the lowest crimes that people re-commit.
You just accept this statement without asking basic questions?
How long are the murderers in jail, and how old are they when released?
What is the recidivism rate for murderers who get a slap on the wrist?
Are you only looking at murder or are you including deaths from violence not charged as murder?
When teenagers carjack someone and that person dies, but they are only given probation, what is the recidivism rate? A person who runs over and kills someone while stealing their car is a murderer even if not charged that way.
With approximately 40% of murders in the US unsolved, how can you possibly trust a stat saying only 2% of murderers reoffend?
Why are you limiting it to murder? Why should a murderer who is released and commits more crimes, just not murder, not be included in recidivism stats? Is murder the only crime a murderer can commit?
Basic common sense says your stat is irrelevant to actual recidivism rates, meaning will a criminal offend again regardless of the crime. Limiting it to only "will they commit the exact same crime and have it be charged the exact same way" makes it a useless stat.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:29 pm to Clames
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He might not go back for murder but there's a strong chance he'll go back in for something.
O.k., but in the United States we don't keep people in prison for crimes that they haven't committed, but might, based on general recidivism statistics or hunches.
Our system is designed to facilitate recidivism. If we kept people in prison over that, no one would ever get out.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:39 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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You just accept this statement without asking basic questions?
I already know the answers to the questions you asked.
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How long are the murderers in jail, and how old are they when released?
Like I already posted, the national average is 25 to life sentences and 15 years served. The majority of murder convicts are in their late 20s to early 30s when they go in, so that makes most of them around 35-40 when they get out.
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What is the recidivism rate for murderers who get a slap on the wrist?
People convicted of murder don't get slaps on the wrist. It's an internet myth. Unless you consider the national average a slap on the wrist, in which case your question has already been answered. Less than 2%.
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When teenagers carjack someone and that person dies, but they are only given probation, what is the recidivism rate? A person who runs over and kills someone while stealing their car is a murderer even if not charged that way.
But they would be charged that way. That's textbook felony murder. I don't really care if you can find some singular story on the internet that serves as an exception, I'm talking about the other 98% of the time.
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Are you only looking at murder
As I clearly stated, yes. You don't get to keep someone in prison in the United States for crimes you think they might commit. Only crimes they actually have committed.
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With approximately 40% of murders in the US unsolved, how can you possibly trust a stat saying only 2% of murderers reoffend?
I'm sorry, I gave you too much credit. I thought it was clear that I was referring to people convicted of murder who served a prison sentence for it. I'll type much slower, use smaller words, and explain everything in detail next time.
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Why are you limiting it to murder?
Because that's what Anthony was convicted of and what he was sentenced for. Did you forget what this discussion was about?
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Why should a murderer who is released and commits more crimes, just not murder, not be included in recidivism stats? Is murder the only crime a murderer can commit?
Because—again—in the United States, you don't get to imprison someone for something they haven't done. Yes, parole boards consider whether someone is a danger to society when they make their determinations, but they make those determinations based on the individual's past and current actions, not general recidivism statistics.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:43 pm to Zakatak
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They never commit other crimes like rape, grand theft, armed robbery, etc.
Where do y'all get the moronic idea that prison sentences are based on what someone might do according to statistics or just hunches rather than on what they actually did?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 2:08 pm to BayouBandit24
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He’ll probably be seen as hero with the groups that he’ll be hanging out with.
I doubt it. He'll be someone's bitch in short order. The dude cried in court, for one. He will be seen as weak - strike 1. He also faked being in a gang when he posed for a photo by showing gang signs for a gang he is not affiliated with. That's a major no-no among that crowd - strike 2. They also know exactly how much money he and his family received from donations and will likely try to extort money from him. The inmates will have a field day with him methinks.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 3:33 pm to wackatimesthree
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Where do y'all get the moronic idea that prison sentences are based on what someone might do according to statistics
From the guy who posted this…
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BTW, less than 2% of murderers commit homicide again after being released. It's one of the lowest crimes that people re-commit.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 4:21 pm to Zakatak
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From the guy who posted this…
No, the guy who posted that included the statistic as context to find out why the poster he was responding to felt like the prison sentence was inappropriate, not to justify the sentence himself.
Sorry, you have to do more than search posts just to see if they include certain terms. Those terms have to actually cogently fit in context before you have a gotcha.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:52 pm to wackatimesthree
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O.k., but in the United States we don't keep people in prison for crimes that they haven't committed,
For cultcha, that might need to change.
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Our system is designed to facilitate recidivism.
The soft on crime, revolving door parts of the system do. Time to accept the fact that many are not fit for civil society at large and penal colony islands should be worth looking into.
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