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re: I am pro LEO, but the Miami PD killed 2 innocent people yesterday due to incompetence
Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:46 pm to bbeck
Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:46 pm to bbeck
God these cops were fricking idiots. Bullets coming pretty close to this car across the intersection. Person killed in their car around the 35 second mark.You can't see anything but their car.
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:49 pm to roadGator
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I’ve got a couple of cop friends. You should come ask them. They are in Florida. Doubt you’d do that though.
It’s actually more than a couple.
There was a time when good cops shamed and berated the incompetent/bad ones- this was done to protect the good image of LEO and instill a sense of confidence in the public.
Now it seems the good ones hide behind the bad out of fear of losing their job or angering leadership.
From your post it would be easy to discern which side you fall on.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:51 pm to nerd guy
Your video link doesn't start at the beginning.
You can hear bullets whizzing by prior to where the link starts it playing.. Cops were completely out of control with zero awareness.
You can hear bullets whizzing by prior to where the link starts it playing.. Cops were completely out of control with zero awareness.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:52 pm to BuckyCheese
Thanks. Fixed.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:57 pm to NYNolaguy1
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From your post it would be easy to discern which side you fall on.
From my post you should have only discerned that I believe it's ridiculous to say all cops are cowards.
I expect too much from this place at times.
It is clear though that people focused on something other than my point. So I'll rectify that here.
It is absolutely ridiculous to call all cops cowards. You may disagree and think that is absolutely not ridiculous.
ETA: I believe that bad cops should be removed from their position and good cops shouldn't tolerate bad ones. I do know this. I could never be a cop. They have to put up with too much bullshite for too little money. That's no excuse for the bad ones before someone gets ridiculous again.
I don't see any part of the above that is controversial or worthy of getting people all fired up.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is a good example why I truly think the cop worship on the right is just weird to disgusting as hell.
Cops are fallible human beings just like we are and make bad decisions just like we do. Just because they have a badge and a gun doesn't automatically make them wise deities that has an answer to everything.
I just don't let a shiny gold piece of metal on their shirt or belt distract me from that reality.
Cops are fallible human beings just like we are and make bad decisions just like we do. Just because they have a badge and a gun doesn't automatically make them wise deities that has an answer to everything.
I just don't let a shiny gold piece of metal on their shirt or belt distract me from that reality.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:04 pm to roadGator
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If you are really interested I'll ask one of them. I don't think you are really interested though.
You're right, I'm not interested. More interested in illustrating that asking a police officer if this could have been handled better isn't the big deal you made it out to be.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:08 pm to roadGator
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It is absolutely ridiculous to call all cops cowards. You may disagree and think that is absolutely not ridiculous.
I agree with this.
That doesnt mean that the bad ones that make poor choices are immune from accountability or criticism because they wear a badge.
I think what happened did so because of poor training, leadership, and quality of officers. Instead of securing the scene they gambled on immediately ending the conflict at the cost of lives.
Of course they will hide behind the badge and say their lives were in danger, all the while transferring the hazard to the surrounding civilians. Its this kind of response that tarnishes the entire profession.
This is regrettably celebrated by the departments repeated updates about no officers being injured while ignoring that their bullets most likely killed innocent people.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:15 pm to LSUconvert
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that asking a police officer if this could have been handled better
I never made your question a big deal. I’m not certain how you came to that conclusion.
I’ve agreed with you that it should have been handled better. Random pew pew pew is not the right course of action around civilians.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
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This is regrettably celebrated by the departments repeated updates about no officers being injured while ignoring that their bullets most likely killed innocent people.
It's a great example of how they think the lives of cops are worth more than people who are not cops.
A badge does not make their life worth more than mine.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
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the bad ones that make poor choices are immune from accountability
The should be held accountable. Absolutely.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Of course they will hide behind the badge and say their lives were in danger, all the while transferring the hazard to the surrounding civilians.
Exactly this. Their job is to protect the citizenry, possibly at their own peril.
Taking out innocents to protect themselves is the exact opposite of what is supposed to happen.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:32 pm to roadGator
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I never made your question a big deal.
I'm not talking about mine. I'm talking about your original response to the thread. It's the one with all the downvotes.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:37 pm to roadGator
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:39 pm to roadGator
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texashorn
No need for you to travel to Florida to question these two....I would imagine that a judge/jury will be asking the question. Not to mention what it will cost Miami in civil suits by the families of the two civilians. Will be interesting to see this play out.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is some Russian spetznaz shite
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:47 pm to roadGator
Maybe you just made a retarded post that actually proves your oppositions point.
Maybe it’s not that people hate leos, maybe you just made a poor point.
Maybe it’s just you.
Maybe it’s not that people hate leos, maybe you just made a poor point.
Maybe it’s just you.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 4:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Every one of these cops needs to be fired, stripped of their pensions, and charged with manslaughter. A lot of cities stopped their cops from doing high speed pursuits due to the danger caused to the public, but these cops think that doing a shootout in the middle of a crowded street and using civilians as shields is acceptable?
There is absolutely no excuse for this. Until people are repeatedly held accountable, these events will continue to occur.
There is absolutely no excuse for this. Until people are repeatedly held accountable, these events will continue to occur.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:03 pm to roadGator
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So all cops are cowards. Got it.
Poorly trained cowards with below average intelligence to be more accurate.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:03 pm to roadGator
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roadGator
So let me ask you this, In your opinion did the cops handle this situation correctly?
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 5:03 pm
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